Rumor: Creed & Butker getting new deals

[Dante84]

Can you take me higher? The Kansas City #Chiefs will be making Creed Humphrey the highest paid Center in the coming weeks and kicker Harrison Butker will be getting a new deal too #ChiefsKingdom #RickeyDoesntDoPoliticsSoDontAsk pic.twitter.com/tQWCcVw8AX

— Rickey (@prettyrickey213) July 30, 2024

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by tredadda

He set a SB record for the longest FG just a few months ago. It wasn’t one of those that just doinked in off a crossbar. It was very straight. I have yet to see him miss a “must make” FG in the playoffs.

He did miss one in the 13 seconds game against Buffalo, which is partially why they were down 3 points at the end. But he made up for it by drilling the kick at the very end to push the game into overtime.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

That’s really how it should be. Hell, if Butker had come out as a leftist activist, I’d still want to resign him. Couldn’t care less what these dudes do politically. Same with Kelce, he wants to be a poster boy for Pfizer, that’s his deal. I just like to watch him play football.

Yup. Do you play great football? Do teammates and coaches like you? Can you keep your shit together so you don’t miss games or distract your team?

If you pass those tests who gives a shit what their personal opinions are whether we agree with them or not.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by DRM08

He did miss one in the 13 seconds game against Buffalo, which is partially why they were down 3 points at the end. But he made up for it by drilling the kick at the very end to push the game into overtime.

He might have missed other FGs as well in the playoffs. He just hasn’t missed a “must make” one.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

That’s really how it should be. Hell, if Butker had come out as a leftist activist, I’d still want to resign him. Couldn’t care less what these dudes do politically. Same with Kelce, he wants to be a poster boy for Pfizer, that’s his deal. I just like to watch him play football.

Can they perform on the field?.....can their teammates depend on them to do their part? Will they stay out of trouble off the field so that there are no suspensions? Can they stay in shape so as not to get hurt because they are out of shape?

In the list of questions I have for someone on the Chiefs asking their political and religious beliefs is question number 4,232 just below "what is your favorite spice to use for cooking" and just above "what is your favorite color".

[BlackOp]

Is giving a Center a big money deal a smart move from an over-all team perspective? Do you need an All-Pro Center in this offense?

I did a quick search...2 of the top 10 were 1st rounders and 2 were second rounders....Kelce was a 6th rounder and Linsley was a 5th...they are rated #2/3 overall...and Andrews was undrafted (6th rated)

Given where the Chiefs are likely to pick every year...seems like a sweet spot to replenish the position. KC let Hudson walk...then Morse.

Creed is awesome and home-grown but if they pay him, they are likely going to lose another position...which might be harder to replace.

When I think of big money contracts...I think "can the team be similarly successful without them" if the answer is yes...I'd let them walk....like they did with Sneed.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Is giving a Center a big money deal a smart move from an over-all team perspective? Do you need an All-Pro Center in this offense?

I did a quick search...2 of the top 10 were 1st rounders and 2 were second rounders....Kelce was a 6th rounder and Linsley was a 5th...they are rated #2/3 overall...and Andrews was undrafted (6th rated)

Given where the Chiefs are likely to pick every year...seems like a sweet spot for the position.

Creed is awesome and home-grown but if they pay him, they are likely going to lose another position...which might be harder to replace.

You do not.

[O.city]

They didn't let Sneed walk. They tagged and traded him.

[Pepe Silvia]

Good moves. You keep a center of his caliber.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Is giving a Center a big money deal a smart move from an over-all team perspective? Do you need an All-Pro Center in this offense?

I did a quick search...2 of the top 10 were 1st rounders and 2 were second rounders....Kelce was a 6th rounder and Linsley was a 5th...they are rated #2/3 overall...and Andrews was undrafted (6th rated)

Given where the Chiefs are likely to pick every year...seems like a sweet spot to replenish the position. KC let Hudson walk...then Morse.

Creed is awesome and home-grown but if they pay him, they are likely going to lose another position...which might be harder to replace.

When I think of big money contracts...I think "can the team be similarly successful without them" if the answer is yes...I'd let them walk....like they did with Sneed.

At some point you have to pay a few of your guys who stand out.

It's just team politics. If these guys go out there and just ball out game it, game out and you still walk away from them, it sends a kinda poor message to the rest of the young players on the squad.

It makes everything very transactional. "I'm here playing for my next contract with someone else..." isn't gonna get you the same level of buy in.

Now you don't have to go all Cowboys with it and sign EVERYONE to new deals. But you do need to give a few guys market deals. You want to show the rest of the squad that the hard work will pay off for them.

They'll do it with McDuffie. Probably Karlaftis. Probably Creed and almost certainly Butker.

You're essentially picking one dude from each 'room' and paying him. One staking horse to sit in those meetings with the rest of the OL or DBs or DLs and say "Keep it up man - you see how it went for me..." I think that matters.

If you let Creed AND Smith walk, that's a pretty bad look. And if Creed costs $7 million/season less than Smith...well doesn't it make more sense to keep Creed?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

They didn't let Sneed walk. They tagged and traded him.

Eh - they got roughly the return of a comp pick.

They effectively took the 'comp pick calculator' out of the equation by making the move with TN. They didn't exactly let him walk but it was pretty damn close.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by O.city

They didn't let Sneed walk. They tagged and traded him.

They didn't resign him...which was my point.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

At some point you have to pay a few of your guys who stand out.


They'll do it with McDuffie. Probably Karlaftis. Probably Creed and almost certainly Butker.

They have a lot of talented players that will need a new deal soon...so you have to evaluate who would be harder to replace...and what resources you would need to replace them.

My post wasn't a knock on Creed at all...it was more about the position he plays and how vital it is to overall team success.

This is strictly from a cap management perspective...Rice is on the same contract trajectory as McDuffie/Karlaftis....which is 3 seasons out. He looks (to me) like he's going to become a great WR.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh - they got roughly the return of a comp pick.

They effectively took the 'comp pick calculator' out of the equation by making the move with TN. They didn't exactly let him walk but it was pretty damn close.

A year early, but point stands.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

They have a lot of talented players that will need a new deal soon...so you have to evaluate who would be harder to replace...and what resources you would need to replace them.

My post wasn't a knock on Creed at all...it was more about the position he plays and how vital it is to overall team success.

This is strictly from a cap management perspective...Rice is on the same contract trajectory as McDuffie/Karlaftis....which is 3 seasons out. He looks (to me) like he's going to become a great WR.

Kelce, Jones, Taylor ill all likely be gone by the time it comes to pay those guys.

As long as it's stacked that way, they should be fine.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Is giving a Center a big money deal a smart move from an over-all team perspective? Do you need an All-Pro Center in this offense?

I did a quick search...2 of the top 10 were 1st rounders and 2 were second rounders....Kelce was a 6th rounder and Linsley was a 5th...they are rated #2/3 overall...and Andrews was undrafted (6th rated)

Given where the Chiefs are likely to pick every year...seems like a sweet spot to replenish the position. KC let Hudson walk...then Morse.

Creed is awesome and home-grown but if they pay him, they are likely going to lose another position...which might be harder to replace.

When I think of big money contracts...I think "can the team be similarly successful without them" if the answer is yes...I'd let them walk....like they did with Sneed.

I think it’s worth giving one big contract on the OL interior and creed fits that bill. I do hope (or maybe wish) we had a succession plan at guard. That feels like an easy position to draft for outside of blue chip picks and it’s a position I want to be very good but doesn’t need to be elite.