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Old 01-23-2008, 01:14 PM  
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GM pulls ahead of Toyota in '07 global sales
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:20 PM   #2
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:36 PM   #3
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:25 PM   #4
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do we know if GM is counting cars that break in half as they're driven off the lot as one or two cars sold?
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:30 PM   #5
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:34 PM   #6
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they sell cars in other countries now, mostly. here, people can afford to and do choose better.
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:37 PM   #7
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GM's annual sales in North America, its largest region by volume, fell 6.1 percent, hurt by high gasoline prices, a weak housing market, a subprime meltdown and a planned reduction in daily rental sales.
Yeah Im sure the fact that they manufacture garbage on wheels had nothing to do with it.
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:40 PM   #8
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GM's annual sales in North America, its largest region by volume, fell 6.1 percent, hurt by high gasoline prices, a weak housing market, a subprime meltdown and a planned reduction in daily rental sales.
and weak housing starts for guys that drive trucks can't buy a new one this year. To one up their truck driving workers.
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Old 01-23-2008, 04:06 PM   #9
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And in other news.....GM had the most (by far) cars on Consumer Report's Used Cars To Avoid poor reliability list.
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Old 01-23-2008, 04:08 PM   #10
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And in other news.....GM had the most (by far) cars on Consumer Report's Used Cars To Avoid poor reliability list.
Honda rules, especially now that they have Chuck Norris in their newest Ridgeline commercial.
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CR Good Bet: Toyota Prius $20,000-$24,000
The response to our 2006 Annual Subscriber Survey was overwhelming. We received responses on more than 1 million vehicles. Because of that, our data paints a more expansive reliability picture than ever before.

This year 59 models made our CR Good Bets list of typically reliable models that have performed well in our road tests.

Our 2006 list of CR Bad Bets, models that are considered especially risky buys and that have exhibited several years of below-average reliability, has 42 models.

CR Good Bets and CR Bad Bets are based on our larger lists of Reliable used cars and Used cars to avoid (available to subscribers). These comprehensive lists give you a rundown of all the models that were found, from our data, to be above or below average in reliability. Owners reported on any serious problems they had had with their cars, minivans, SUVs, and pickup trucks in the previous year.


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These models, listed alphabetically, have performed well in Consumer Reports road tests and have had several years of better-than-average reliability according to our survey respondents.

Acura Integra
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(except ‘06)
Acura TL
Acura TSX
Buick Regal
Chevrolet Prizm
Honda Accord
Honda Civic
Honda Civic Hybrid
Honda CR-V
Honda Element
Honda Odyssey
Honda Pilot
Honda Prelude
Honda S2000
Infiniti FX
Infiniti G20
Infiniti G35
Infiniti I30, I35
Infiniti QX4
Lexus ES
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Lexus IS
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Scion xB
Subaru Forester
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Subaru Impreza WRX
Subaru Legacy
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Toyota 4Runner
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Toyota Corolla
Toyota Echo
Toyota Highlander
Toyota Land Cruiser
Toyota Matrix
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Toyota RAV4
Toyota Sequoia
Toyota Sienna
Toyota Tundra

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These vehicles showed multiple Used Car Verdicts that were much worse than average, according to our survey respondents. They consistently had more problems than other models overall.

BMW 7 Series
BMW X5 (V8)
Chevrolet Astro
Chevrolet Blazer
Chevrolet Express
Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
Chevrolet Venture
Chevrolet Uplander
Chrysler
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Dodge
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Jaguar S-Type
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Jeep Grand Cherokee
Kia Sedona
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Land Rover Discovery
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Lincoln Aviator
Lincoln Navigator
Mercedes-Benz CLK
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Oldsmobile Bravada
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Pontiac Aztek
Pontiac Trans Sport
Pontiac Montana
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Volkswagen Jetta
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Old 01-23-2008, 04:11 PM   #12
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Honda rules, especially now that they have Chuck Norris in their newest Ridgeline commercial.
Hondas seem to be reliable. I just think most of their vehicles are fugly. Similar for Toyotas. They just seem too tame to me. I don't care for their Tundra because it just isn't fun to drive, too quiet, too sanitary (or something like that).
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