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Old 01-20-2019, 09:33 PM  
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Why is Mahomes incapable of running a 4 minute offense

Yeah yeah yeah defense sucks ass and Mahomes got us to OT. Cool, I don't give a flying ****. Mahomes and Andy have serious ****ing issues they need to fix. And to be frank I think it's a Mahomes issue more than an Andy one. He seems obsessed with the deep ball even when we very clearly don't need it or want it. Like he literally threw bomb after bomb on our second to last drive and one of those bombs almost got picked.

I love Mahomes as much as anyone else, but I'm hoping this isn't some weird Favre like bullshit that plagues his career forever. Hopefully Andy can drill him into being a smarter QB.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:43 AM   #121
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I agree that the defense is shitty, but we knew the defense was shitty before the game. So why was the plan to give the ball back to Brady with time on the clock, and put the worst defense in NFL history against the greatest QB of all time with the game on the line? You didn't need to be Tony Romo to predict that this was not going to work. Sometimes you have to play with the team you have, not the one you wish you had, which means trying to spare the D when you have a chance to run out the clock and end the game.
Because it's better to give the ball back to Brady when we HAVE THE FRIGGING LEAD, than to use up all the time but not score. You're taking for granted that we could actually run a 4 minute offense and score. Again, how does it help us to run down the clock if we don't end up scoring?

As an offense, you're first priority is to put points on the board. Which they did. It's up to the defense to do their job. As it turned out, Brady and the super coach went down and scored so quickly that we had time to go down the field and score again. Are you saying that they ****ed up too?
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:05 AM   #122
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This is the worst thread I have seen in any football related forum. I mean there’s blatantly bad threads that are meant to be bad, but this idiot actually thinks he is right here.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:56 AM   #123
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We got the ball with 3:26 left on the clock down 4 in the fourth. Instead of taking our time, we ran a 7 play drive with 4 of those plays being deep shots by Mahomes. This matters. Closing games matters. That's how you win in this league and why Brady is regarded as the GOAT.
Where is the rb that could help him to control the clock? Every time 3&8 cannot be the way. We had one, but he was an idiot.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:06 AM   #124
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Mahomes was conditioned to score a lot of points in college and we are going to score a lot of points this isn't on Patrick but the team lost this game with inadequate coaching.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:11 AM   #125
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Complaining about an offense scoring to fast. I hear there is a QB for the Redskins that likes to take 10 minutes to score 3 points if you are interested.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:30 AM   #126
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Running the clock down to win the game isn’t Alex Smith taking 10 mins. JFC posters here refuse to admit Pat can get better at certain things and equate everything back to Alex.

3:26 with 68 yards to go. That’s on Andy for not setting up a few screens or god forbid run the ball once or twice. We need to understand the situation and play to it, but we didn’t.

That is what makes Brady so good. He is methodical when he needs to be and understands the chess game. Like it or not Pat can learn a lot from this year, mostly that he can sometimes take a checkdown every once and awhile that the defense is begging him to take instead of throwing deep passes 95% of the time. He can run 5 yards sometimes on first down when nobody is around him.
That doesn’t mean he is Alex at all. It means he’s like Brees, Brady, Manning and the rest of the great QB’s.

I’m not blaming anything on the kid. That’s just who he is right now and it will take time. But I suspect he will be more patient as he grows with experience.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:38 AM   #127
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Yeah, that would have been great to run the clock to well under 2 mins, but I'm convinced the Patriots would have scored a TD with a minute left.

Here's all you need to know: Our DC and D ****ing blow.

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Old 01-21-2019, 11:42 AM   #128
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Yeah, that would have been great to run the clock to well under 2 mins, but I'm convinced the Patriots would have scored a TD with a minute left.

Here's all you need to know: Our DC and D ****ing blow.

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Old 01-21-2019, 11:42 AM   #129
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Running the clock down to win the game isn’t Alex Smith taking 10 mins. JFC posters here refuse to admit Pat can get better at certain things and equate everything back to Alex.

3:26 with 68 yards to go. That’s on Andy for not setting up a few screens or god forbid run the ball once or twice. We need to understand the situation and play to it, but we didn’t.

That is what makes Brady so good. He is methodical when he needs to be and understands the chess game. Like it or not Pat can learn a lot from this year, mostly that he can sometimes take a checkdown every once and awhile that the defense is begging him to take instead of throwing deep passes 95% of the time. He can run 5 yards sometimes on first down when nobody is around him.
That doesn’t mean he is Alex at all. It means he’s like Brees, Brady, Manning and the rest of the great QB’s.

I’m not blaming anything on the kid. That’s just who he is right now and it will take time. But I suspect he will be more patient as he grows with experience.
C'mon man. Really?

If Wally had run the ball, people would be screaming that he didn't "put the game in Mahomes' hands!!".

You know this.

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Old 01-21-2019, 11:44 AM   #130
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Complaining about Mahomes being too good at what he does. Wow, this is an awful thread.
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:47 AM   #131
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Old 01-21-2019, 11:48 AM   #132
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Yeah yeah yeah defense sucks ass and Mahomes got us to OT. Cool, I don't give a flying ****. Mahomes and Andy have serious ****ing issues they need to fix. And to be frank I think it's a Mahomes issue more than an Andy one. He seems obsessed with the deep ball even when we very clearly don't need it or want it. Like he literally threw bomb after bomb on our second to last drive and one of those bombs almost got picked.

I love Mahomes as much as anyone else, but I'm hoping this isn't some weird Favre like bullshit that plagues his career forever. Hopefully Andy can drill him into being a smarter QB.
Strange take. If Belichick agreed with you, he would just have allowed one or more of our receivers to score as quickly as possible. 3 minutes left on the clock; just put 11 guys out there on D and tell them to do nothing. He didn't do that though, because it's silly. Mahomes scored when he should have scored; as quickly as possible. This team wasn't going to be running time off the clock. We were playing against the Patriot's defense, they were playing against ours. They could, in theory, take time off the clock and bleed us slowly, but do you think Belichick and/or Brady wouldn't have scored as quickly as they could had Sutton ordered the defense to stop playing? Of course not. They would have taken any score they could get. Anyway, what an unbelievably bad take. The defense was absolutely awful in every way, and we still SHOULD HAVE won.
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:38 PM   #133
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I called out this same thing after the first Patriots game. How do the Patriots always win, look at their Superbowls and look at the regular season. They have the ball last. I know we can score fast on the big chunk plays. We can come back like no one else in the league. But you have to be able to drain the clock and give another team no time to get back in it. I called it during the drive in the first Patriots game when Tyreek scored fast, I called it during the Rams game at the end, and I called it during this game. You can't give good teams the ball back with time left. It's the difference between winning and losing when you play the good team. Of course we can point to the defense, and we should, but how many Patriots Superbowls were won by one score or less? It's what Brady and Belichick are masters at and if we don't figure that out, we'll have more seasons end like this. Finish the game, you should never have to rely on your defense to do that for you.
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:42 PM   #134
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What sort of dumbassery says Mahomes is inexperienced so he throws long passes. WTF is up with that? We have not had a QB since forever who threw more than 2-3 deep downfield passes in a game......I suppose we can assume they didn't throw deep cause they had excellent experience? Sports Radio brings some real intellect to the surface.
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Old 01-21-2019, 12:49 PM   #135
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Hold on a second.

You do realize they went scoreless in the first half, right? And you realize they were facing Belichick? You also realize that the O-line was getting their asses handed to them most of the night?

How in the hell does that add up to "let's take all the time off the clock because we know we're going to score?"
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