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Old 09-04-2024, 08:15 AM  
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Old 09-04-2024, 01:02 PM   #31
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I guess by that logic Jamaal Charles isn't considered a Chiefs player. The 2nd best TE of all time isn't considered a Chiefs player, but instead is a falcon.
We've finally found something more reeruned than RAS...
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Old 09-04-2024, 01:46 PM   #32
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We've finally found something more reeruned than RAS...
Yeah and that was a tough one to top.

God damn, what a stupid ****ing statistic. It kind of irritates me that Mecca had to bring it up. Damn him
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Old 09-04-2024, 01:57 PM   #33
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I guess by that logic Jamaal Charles isn't considered a Chiefs player. The 2nd best TE of all time isn't considered a Chiefs player, but instead is a falcon.
He is considered to be which ever of the two is most convenient for him to be considered at any given moment.
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Old 09-04-2024, 02:16 PM   #34
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Old 09-04-2024, 03:21 PM   #35
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Old 09-04-2024, 03:30 PM   #36
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I guess by that logic Jamaal Charles isn't considered a Chiefs player. The 2nd best TE of all time isn't considered a Chiefs player, but instead is a falcon.
He's the Dan Marino of TEs. Gaudy numbers and an empty trophy case. He's MAYBE the 3rd best of all time, and that's only if you remove hardware from the equation completely.
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He's the Dan Marino of TEs. Gaudy numbers and an empty trophy case. He's MAYBE the 3rd best of all time, and that's only if you remove hardware from the equation completely.
Yeah, Kelce and Gronk have 1-2 on lock (in that order, IMO, but I can see an argument to the contrary).

Gates and Winslow are at 5-6.

So 3 or 4 is the debate here - Tony G or Sharpe. Tony G beats him on numbers, Sharpe kills him on hardware. At their respective apexes, (1998-2001) it was Tony getting the All Pro nods but a pretty good argument exists that Sharpe was declining at that point while Tony was still ascending.

But ultimately I don't think there's a huge distinction between their best levels. Both guys were spectacular at their best. Longevity, though, is Tony G in a walk.

So regardless of hardware, I'm giving Tony the 3 spot.

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Everyone else (there's a pretty big drop after Winslow, IMO)

270 games from Gonzelez, virtually all of them at a very high level (whereas Gates fell off really hard) is pretty damn incredible, though. To put that in perspective, Kelce would need to play another SEVEN YEARS to hit those figures. Dude was made of granite.
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Old 09-04-2024, 03:59 PM   #38
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Most of these dudes don't graduate.

If you have to torture a stat that badly, just keep it in your pocket. It's dumb.
If they were at the school when they were drafted, then they're from that school this isn't hard.

Baker Mayfield isn't a Texas Tech QB
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If they were at the school when they were drafted, then they're from that school this isn't hard.

Baker Mayfield isn't a Texas Tech QB
Baker Mayfield played less than a single season at Tech.

Jalen Hurts set school records at 'Bama.
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The conundrum here is do you get the bag or do yo sign a more team friendly deal in the hopes to get traded to a team that isn't ass?
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Crazy thing is, in two or three years this will seem like a good deal.
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Crazy thing is, in two or three years this will seem like a good deal.
The deal doesn't technically take effect until 2 years from now. He's still on his rookie contract for two more years although the signing bonus gets paid out at signing which is now.
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The deal doesn't technically take effect until 2 years from now. He's still on his rookie contract for two more years although the signing bonus gets paid out at signing which is now.


Yeah, by then this deal will look pretty standard. Nuts, imo, but probably true.
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they were obviously going to pay him, he's one of like 3 players I can even name on the broncos and I watch them 2 times per year
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they were obviously going to pay him, he's one of like 3 players I can even name on the broncos and I watch them 2 times per year
They also have Garrett Bolles, but only because other teams aren't confident that he could find their facilities if they traded for him.
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