NFL Draft Survey of Draft Websites: Chiefs will pick... - Page 5

KCJohnny · 01-10-2009, 11:31 PM

Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
http://www.draftseason.com/lupagus-nfl-mock-draft

Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
http://newnfldraft.com/

Aaron Curry, OLB Wake Forest
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html

James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...raft-round-one

This site compiles draft 'experts' picks. Out of the top 25, only 3 have Bradford falling to the Chiefs at #3 while 9 have Matt Stafford falling to the 3rd overrall (!) and 3 have Orakpo and 3 have Curry being selected as the 3rd overall pick. Just 12 of 25 project a QB to be selected as the 3rd overall (assuming most realize KC has the #3 pick). 10 of the 25 have defensive players being selected #3.

The rationale provided by many of the draft websites is that the Chiefs should continue to develop Tyler Thigpen and draft to address the NFL's worst _efense which set an NFL record for fewest sacks in league history.

Of course the X factor is the new GM, but I thought it was interesting that Sam Bradford was not a slam dunk for most draft web sites, and fewer than 50% see Kansas City drafting a QB at all.

KCJohnny

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-11-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

And its hard IMHO to justify picking a QB in the draft when you have the NFL's worst _efense.

This makes absolutely no sense. BPA. If its Stafford or Sanchez, you take them.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-11-2009, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Thanks.

So who is the QBotF for the Rams? Isn't Bulger about 32?

If they draft a QB, they are going to have way too much money wrapped up in 2 QBs. They just re-signed Bulger to a large deal a couple years ago.

kstater · 01-11-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Uh, Ryan had the luxury of the NFL's #1 rushing attack (2460 yds) and had less TDs than Thiggy and about the same amount of INTs. Thigpen deserves to compete for the starting QB position next year. Drafting a QB next year could set the whole project back by 2 years or more. Flacco had the NFL's best D to cover for him and Ryan had the NFL's best rushing attack. Thigpen iherited a team dead last in total offense in 2007 and finished dead last in total defense in 2008. The Chiefs averaged 21.6 PPG in games started by Thigpen.

And not drafting a QB and relying on Thigpen could set the franchise back 10 years.

**RealSNR** · 01-11-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Thanks.

So who is the QBotF for the Rams? Isn't Bulger about 32?

Trent Green?

No, seriously, I don't really know. I just think they were eyeing Jake Long last year and didn't get what they wanted, so THIS year's premier LT that's even better should be drafted.

Mark M · 01-11-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

... You draft by looking at your board not at your roster.

That is the smartest thing about the draft ever posted on this site.

The Chiefs had horrific drafts during the Gun and DV years due to poor scouting, and then relying on that poor scouting to draft a player of dire need. So instead of wisely using FA to fill true needs and using the draft to stockpile talent, they've whiffed in FA and over-reached in the draft. It's drafting based on desperation -- even fear -- and it's been an absolute failure.

Granted, one still doesn't spend a high pick on a position if one already has the position filled with a truly talented player. But one should always be looking to upgrade any position when the chance comes, and that's something the Chiefs simply haven't been able to do.

I guess that's what happens when your GM thinks the draft is a "crapshoot," rather than, you know, an essential way to stock your roster.

MM
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Warrior5 · 01-11-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

This makes absolutely no sense. BPA. If its Stafford or Sanchez, you take them.

Only if you think a Stafford or Sanchez are BPA. If you think a DE or LB is the BPA, it makes perfect sense.

**SAUTO** · 01-11-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You do understand the Chiefs ran a gimmick offense predicated on letting the QB make easy throws and throwing all the time...I'd hope he had alot of yards and TD's.

so this"gimmick" let an unknown small school loser score 22 td's in his first year starting yet should be scrapped??

**SAUTO** · 01-11-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

PPG: Chiefs - 18.2; Falcons - 24.4; Ravens - 24.1
TDs: Thigpen - 18; Ryan - 14; Flacco -14

Funny - TDs by the QB don't correlate to team scoring.

funny those other 2 teams ACTUALLY have a run game

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-11-2009, 09:34 AM

I like I said if Stafford is available KC will select him

58-4ever · 01-11-2009, 09:49 AM

I think Crabtree will drop quite a bit when he runs a 4.55

FringeNC · 01-11-2009, 09:57 AM

If we get Pioli, he's not a BPA guy. It's more of a coach-centered approach. Can the guy fit into the system that the coach runs?

Reerun_KC · 01-11-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

If we get Pioli, he's not a BPA guy. It's more of a coach-centered approach. Can the guy fit into the system that the coach runs?

He has to be an upgrade of what we have done the last 20 years..

Dont you think?

Plus I have a feeling we wont be saddled with Rejects like Marty, Gun, DV or shit for brains coaches like Herm...

FringeNC · 01-11-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

He has to be an upgrade of what we have done the last 20 years..

Dont you think?

Plus I have a feeling we wont be saddled with Rejects like Marty, Gun, DV or shit for brains coaches like Herm...

I think it's a good philosophy, but I doubt most on here will agree who tend to downplay the role of coaching in success.

**RealSNR** · 01-11-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5

Only if you think a Stafford or Sanchez are BPA. If you think a DE or LB is the BPA, it makes perfect sense.

The BPA is NOT a DE or a LB in the first 5 picks

King_Chief_Fan · 01-11-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

He has to be an upgrade of what we have done the last 20 years..

Dont you think?

Plus I have a feeling we wont be saddled with Rejects like Marty, Gun, DV or shit for brains coaches like Herm...

As much as I hope you are right, I have a really bad feeling that Herm will be here. Clark will get the new GM to keep him one more year. Pure speculation on my part.....I hope I am wrong.

01-10-2009, 11:31 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Survey of Draft Websites: Chiefs will pick... Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148 Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas http://www.draftseason.com/lupagus-nfl-mock-draft Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma http://newnfldraft.com/ Aaron Curry, OLB Wake Forest http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...raft-round-one This site compiles draft 'experts' picks. Out of the top 25, only 3 have Bradford falling to the Chiefs at #3 while 9 have Matt Stafford falling to the 3rd overrall (!) and 3 have Orakpo and 3 have Curry being selected as the 3rd overall pick. Just 12 of 25 project a QB to be selected as the 3rd overall (assuming most realize KC has the #3 pick). 10 of the 25 have defensive players being selected #3. The rationale provided by many of the draft websites is that the Chiefs should continue to develop Tyler Thigpen and draft to address the NFL's worst _efense which set an NFL record for fewest sacks in league history. Of course the X factor is the new GM, but I thought it was interesting that Sam Bradford was not a slam dunk for most draft web sites, and fewer than 50% see Kansas City drafting a QB at all. KCJohnny
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