Chiefs **** Brett Veach - Page 6

Mecca · 12-23-2018, 10:58 PM

Seriously had enough.

You've been a GM for roughly a year and a half and honestly you kinda suck so far.

You traded for Ragland...he sucks.
You give Hitchens a ton of money, he sucks really bad.
You spent a whole draft on a bunch of guys who have made the defense worse than it was when you took the job...

Sammy Watkins has been fine when he plays but still the same issues he's always had...

So lets be real, so far when Watkins is your best move since taking the job that is terrible.

And seriously **** you for thinking that secondary was so good you didn't have to spend 1 pick on it till the 4th round then telling us you were fixing the run D. Yea you should did that..

So far you ****ing suck at your job, a reerun with a pellet gun could have basically gotten the same result as what you've done since taking over.

Chiefspants · 10-13-2019, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He can **** up a lot more trades or picks. He has a lot of slack from me.

I NEED A STATUS UPDATE, BIG RED.

PAChiefsGuy · 10-13-2019, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Yeah, let’s run the guy responsible for landing Mahomes out of town. Oh, he also found several good players in the scrap heap and has been on the job for a year.

Derp.

One pick doesn't make someone a good GM. Good GMs build a good team from top to bottom. Veach hasn't done anything close to that. Frank Clark trade, Hitchens signing and bad draft picks. The guy sucks. Open your eyes would you?

TEX · 10-13-2019, 05:47 PM

Yep. The roster is decaying on his watch. Time to go.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 10-13-2019, 05:53 PM

Honey Badger looked liked he was about to cry after the game. He said something that I found interesting. He basically said the guys are playing for themselves and until they play for each other this defense is what will keep happening. Basically said the DL plays for the DL and linebackers play for the LBs. They are selfish.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-13-2019, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Veach got us Mahomes. He was the one making everyone watch tape, Demanding we pick this guy from TT. He was the man. Mahomes changed our team into a winner. Already ended curses. Playoff wins at home. I have no doubt we are going to win a Super Bowl sometime during the Mahomes era.

He can **** up a lot more trades or picks. He has a lot of slack from me.

He struck gold with the most important position on the field.. So he'll get a free pass for the next 5-7 years among the general fanbase.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-13-2019, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Honey Badger looked liked he was about to cry after the game. He said something that I found interesting. He basically said the guys are playing for themselves and until they play for each other this defense is what will keep happening. Basically said the DL plays for the DL and linebackers play for the LBs. They are selfish.

Calling out Chris Jones and Frank Clark with the usual suspects at LB

kcclone · 10-13-2019, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

One pick doesn't make someone a good GM. Good GMs build a good team from top to bottom. Veach hasn't done anything close to that. Frank Clark trade, Hitchens signing and bad draft picks. The guy sucks. Open your eyes would you?

Agreed. He may have hit the lottery jackpot but that's different than the guy who is self made who builds a large company from the ground up. Both guys end up rich, but one was luck and the other was talent.

And it's totally possible that the story that was force fed to us from the media was a Chiefs/Veach PR campaign to endear him to fans.

As for Mahomes and his great relationship, that can change quickly if Mahomes realizes he won't be able to fix the roster.

The longer we waste trying to fix the D, and not re-load the OL, the more of Mahomes' career we waste.

-King- · 10-13-2019, 06:28 PM

Veach is the only guy to get credit for drafting a player even though he was just a scout at the time.

Mecca · 10-14-2019, 07:21 AM

So I went to the Chiefs website and looked at their list of transactions since he was hired....

It is very arguable the only position we are better at is WR from his moves, we're better at QB but he wasn't GM for that pick. Oh and kicker...

RB worse
TE similar
OL worse
DL worse at best the same
LB worse at best the same
secondary worse
K better
P ill call it the same even though colquitt is declining.

So in about 2 and a half years as a GM our team hasn't done much to get better.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-14-2019, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

So I went to the Chiefs website and looked at their list of transactions since he was hired....

It is very arguable the only position we are better at is WR from his moves, we're better at QB but he wasn't GM for that pick. Oh and kicker...

RB worse
TE similar
OL worse
DL worse at best the same
LB worse at best the same
secondary worse
K better
P ill call it the same even though colquitt is declining.

So in about 2 and a half years as a GM our team hasn't done much to get better.

I actually think we've done OK for the secondary. I like honey Badger and Thornhill. Fuller and ward and Claiborne aren't bad considering they're very low cost. But the rest of his moves have been bad with both trenches being terribad.

Mecca · 10-14-2019, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I actually think we've done OK for the secondary. I like honey Badger and Thornhill. Fuller and ward and Claiborne aren't bad considering they're very low cost. But the rest of his moves have been bad with both trenches being terribad.

Lets remember when he was hired, we had Marcus Peters coming off of a DROY type of year and Eric Berry was an all pro.

Red Dawg · 10-14-2019, 07:39 AM

Andy calls the shots. Veach is a pawn and apparently not a good one. They have ruined our defense in a big way.

Andy should be on the hot seat but we all know he isn't.

**The Franchise** · 10-14-2019, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Lets remember when he was hired, we had Marcus Peters coming off of a DROY type of year and Eric Berry was an all pro.

And Eric Berry declining rapidly isn’t his fault.

Mecca · 10-14-2019, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

And Eric Berry declining rapidly isn’t his fault.

No but literally having every position on the team get worse on your watch is your fault.

kcclone · 10-14-2019, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Andy calls the shots. Veach is a pawn and apparently not a good one. They have ruined our defense in a big way.

Andy should be on the hot seat but we all know he isn't.

Under normal circumstances, I would agree there's nothing a guy like Reid could do to get fired and his 9-11 wins will always be enough, but this is different.

When Mahomes gets fed up, Reid will be gone. It may take another year or possibly two, but eventually Mahomes will realize this is the ground hog day and Reid/Veach are incapable of fixing the D.

And Clark is not going to waste the entire Mahomes era by watching defensive ineptitude.

Heads will roll sooner around here.

Our HC is no longer the most powerful person in the organization behind the owner. Once Mahomes wants change, change will come.

12-23-2018, 10:58 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2657050	** Brett Veach Seriously had enough. You've been a GM for roughly a year and a half and honestly you kinda suck so far. You traded for Ragland...he sucks. You give Hitchens a ton of money, he sucks really bad. You spent a whole draft on a bunch of guys who have made the defense worse than it was when you took the job... Sammy Watkins has been fine when he plays but still the same issues he's always had... So lets be real, so far when Watkins is your best move since taking the job that is terrible. And seriously you for thinking that secondary was so good you didn't have to spend 1 pick on it till the 4th round then telling us you were fixing the run D. Yea you should did that.. So far you **ing suck at your job, a reerun with a pellet gun could have basically gotten the same result as what you've done since taking over.
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10-13-2019, 05:47 PM	#78
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $2403127	Yep. The roster is decaying on his watch. Time to go. __________________ "The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
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10-13-2019, 05:53 PM	#79
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6860400	Honey Badger looked liked he was about to cry after the game. He said something that I found interesting. He basically said the guys are playing for themselves and until they play for each other this defense is what will keep happening. Basically said the DL plays for the DL and linebackers play for the LBs. They are selfish.
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-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $2525743	Veach is the only guy to get credit for drafting a player even though he was just a scout at the time.
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10-14-2019, 07:21 AM	#84
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2657050	So I went to the Chiefs website and looked at their list of transactions since he was hired.... It is very arguable the only position we are better at is WR from his moves, we're better at QB but he wasn't GM for that pick. Oh and kicker... RB worse TE similar OL worse DL worse at best the same LB worse at best the same secondary worse K better P ill call it the same even though colquitt is declining. So in about 2 and a half years as a GM our team hasn't done much to get better.
Posts: 110,778

10-14-2019, 07:39 AM	#87
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4792858	Andy calls the shots. Veach is a pawn and apparently not a good one. They have ruined our defense in a big way. Andy should be on the hot seat but we all know he isn't. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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