Chiefs Fatality on I-435 before Chiefs Game - Page 6

**gblowfish** · 10-22-2018, 10:11 AM

I heard Andy mention this in his press conference but hadn't seen any news about it. Apparently the wreck was caused by a cop. Man, and I'm sure the backup trying to get into the stadium from Johnson County was a mess. Story is here:

https://www.kansascity.com/news/loca...220422195.html

KCPD spokesman Capt. Lionel Colón describes a fatal crash involving a police vehicle on Interstate 435 ahead of Sunday night's Chiefs football game. One person died. Two were critically injured. The officer suffered non-life-threatening injuries.

By Joe Robertson

A fatal crash that blocked Chiefs game traffic on Interstate 435 Sunday afternoon started when an off-duty Kansas City police officer in a department van rear-ended another vehicle, police said.

“This is a tough one,” Kansas City police Capt. Lionel Colón said Sunday night, as he spoke about the multi-vehicle crash that left one person dead, two critically injured and the officer hospitalized with injuries that were not thought to be life-threatening.

“We hurt with you,” he said, speaking to families of the victims of the crash.

The crash happened shortly after 4 p.m. in the northbound lanes of I-435 just south of Stadium Drive.

Colón said the police van rear-ended a vehicle and then two other vehicles were also involved in the crash.

Traffic was quickly reduced to one lane, and then was completely shut down by 5 p.m. Traffic backed up for some three miles as Kansas City police crash specialists investigated the scene.

Colón said Kansas City Police Chief Rick Smith “is shaken” to hear that an officer has been involved in a fatal crash. “We all are,” Colón said.

Late Sunday night, police released more details of the crash. The police van, a blue Ford E350, came upon slow traffic that was lining up on the way to Arrowhead Stadium. The van ran into the rear of a Maroon Mitsubishi Lancer, knocking it into a white Ford Edge, which was forced into a black Chevy Suburban.

The police van hit both the Mitsubishi and the Ford Edge before coming to rest to the north of all three other vehicles in the crash.

The driver of the Mitsubishi was pronounced dead at the scene. Two passengers in the front and rear of the car were hospitalized with life-threatening injuries. No one in the Ford Edge or the Suburban were seriously injured.

The name of the person killed in the crash had not yet been released Sunday night.

There was no indication in the preliminary investigation of the scene that any of the drivers in the crash were impaired.

The off-duty officer was on the way to Arrowhead Stadium, Colón said, but it was not known if he was going to work at the game or going as a spectator.

Many police staff are on-call and will use police vehicles while off-duty so that they can quickly respond if they are called into action, he said.

The highway remained shut down for most of three hours leading up to the game, which kicked off at 7:20 p.m. at Arrowhead.

DJ's left nut · 02-21-2019, 09:39 AM

Distracted driving and kills a guy. Get's a 4 month paid vacation w/ a lateral move.

Damn this one is frustrating - surely more will come out of this. They can't just say 'oops' and move along. There's no way this was just an excusable incident - you don't drive through the back of someone hard enough to kill an occupant of a modern vehicle if you're paying attention at all.

Seriously - the amount of energy vehicles made in the last 20 years can absorb is just remarkable. He had to blast that thing at essentially full speed to do the damage he did. He simply wasn't paying attention and because he's a police officer it appears likely that absolutely nothing will come of it.

htismaqe · 02-21-2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

It's shit like this that creates animosity towards police....

Yep.

I happen to be in the middle on the whole "police" issue. I think some of the ire is misplaced or manufactured and that helps to overshadow (by hyper-politicizing) legitimate cases of police neglect or brutality.

In this climate, you have to dot EVERY I and EVERY T. There's just no excuse for this kind of thing to happen. You're trying to rebuild reputation in the community, for right or for wrong.

**Bugeater** · 02-21-2019, 10:37 AM

There's no doubt in my mind that had this been a normal citizen, they would have been immediately charged with motor vehicle homicide. Any level of distrust the public has for KCPD is now justified.

**Bugeater** · 02-21-2019, 10:41 AM

I have yet to even see a photo of the result of the accident. They sure are doing a good job of burying the facts on this one.

Pablo · 02-21-2019, 01:28 PM

Just glad this hero is back out there protecting us again. Can't keep a good man down.

Demonpenz · 02-21-2019, 05:05 PM

He will be out planting drugs on black people and shooting them as they run away as God created man to do.

-King- · 02-22-2019, 02:16 AM

He was scared for his life. Isn't that the usual excuse for when cops kill people?

And some people still don't believe we need police reform.

**007** · 02-22-2019, 02:19 AM

OK, so back in the 90's I knew a girl who killed a electrical worker because she chose to drive under the influence. Enough to be just over the limit. She went to jail and was in court for a couple years until they gave her time served and tons of community service.

But this officer gets off scott free with distracted driving at high speeds? That is some bullshit. I support the police but this guy should have lost his job and done time. But definitely make an example of a 19 year old. SMH

Don't take this as her being hit to hard. I agree with what she was given. I absolutely do not agree with this officer getting off scott free and able to do the same job again.

**BigRedChief** · 02-22-2019, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I agree. I just have it when one cop screws it up for the rest of us...because now we are all dirtbags. I also hate it that people can't differentiate between the wo/man and the uniform.

We have talked privately about some of this. The town I live in had a full blown race riot in the mid-90's when a white cop shot an unarmed black man.It was national news. On every channel. Front page of every paper. For weeks. No one trusted the cops because they just did whatever they wanted at any time. As long as the older white people were safe, no one in government cared to change this behavior.

Things slowly changed. Still a lot of racists down here but, now the vast majority of citizens trust the police. Are friendly towards them on the street. They quit seeing everyone as a possible criminal to put down. Police were viewed as humans, not racist pigs. Cops were held accountable. Fired, put in jail, suspended etc. They started foot patrols in neighborhoods. Put them on bikes. The citizens had more pleasant interactions with cops. Attitudes changed that the few didn't really represent the whole police squad.

They have the 3rd largest gay pride festival in the country here. Use to have all kinds of violence between rednecks coming down to beat up people. The police turned a blind eye. Now they put out a public notice last year to keep your conversations and greetings with police to a minimum. People were thanking them for their service. Appreciate the turn around. Distracting them from doing their job. They havent had an incident of violence in 10 years now.

It seems like a formula that works everywhere. Get cops out of their cars. Show the city that the vast majority want to serve and help make it safe. Will hold accountable the cops who **** up and hurt innocent citizens. Anyone of us on here does what this cop did, we don't get off, we are going to jail. Undercuts all the goodwill.

dj56dt58 · 02-22-2019, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We have talked privately about some of this. The town I live in had a full blown race riot in the mid-90's when a white cop shot an unarmed black man.It was national news. On every channel. Front page of every paper. No one trusted the cops because they just did whatever they wanted at any time. As long as the older white people were safe, no one in government cared to change this behavior.

Things slowly changed. Still a lot of racists down here but, now the vast majority of citizens trust the police. Are friendly towards them on the street. They quit seeing everyone as a possible criminal to put down. Police were viewed as humans, not racist pigs. Cops were held accountable. Fired, put in jail, suspended etc. They started foot patrols in neighborhoods. Put them on bikes. The citizens had more pleasant interactions with cops. Attitudes changed that the few didn't really represent the whole police squad.

They have the 3rd largest gay pride festival in the country here. Use to have all kinds of violence between rednecks coming down to beat up people. The police turned a blind eye. Now they put out a public notice last year to keep your conversations and greetings with police to a minimum. People were thanking them for their service. Appreciate the turn around. Distracting them from doing their job. They havent had an incident of violence in 10 years now.

It seems like a formula that works everywhere. Get cops out of their cars. Show the city that the vast majority want to serve and help make it safe. Will hold accountable the cops who **** up and hurt innocent citizens. Anyone of us on here does what this cop did, we don't get off, we are going to jail. Undercuts all the goodwill.

Just curious..was this unarmed black man standing still with his hands up or possibly resisting or not complying and reaching in his pockets? People think just because someone is unarmed they shouldn’t be shot by police. NOT the case. Officers don’t know if someone is armed or not.

Marcellus · 02-22-2019, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He was scared for his life. Isn't that the usual excuse for when cops kill people?

And some people still don't believe we need police reform.

Not sure how this fits into the story, this was simply a traffic accident.

Marcellus · 02-22-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 007

OK, so back in the 90's I knew a girl who killed a electrical worker because she chose to drive under the influence. Enough to be just over the limit. She went to jail and was in court for a couple years until they gave her time served and tons of community service.

But this officer gets off scott free with distracted driving at high speeds? That is some bullshit. I support the police but this guy should have lost his job and done time. But definitely make an example of a 19 year old. SMH

Don't take this as her being hit to hard. I agree with what she was given. I absolutely do not agree with this officer getting off scott free and able to do the same job again.

You honestly think a person should go to prison for driving distracted and having an accident?

They guy should be punished which apparently he wasn't but jail seems to be insane. It appears people only feel this way because it was a cop.

I also see a lot of accusations the guy is a piece of shit, with absolutely no evidence to support it. I mean maybe he is, but I have no reason to know that other then he made a mistake and got into a serious accident. That shit happens every single day.

Lots of people perched on high horses in this thread.

**BigRedChief** · 02-22-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Just curious..was this unarmed black man standing still with his hands up or possibly resisting or not complying and reaching in his pockets? People think just because someone is unarmed they shouldn’t be shot by police. NOT the case. Officers don’t know if someone is armed or not.

Thats what you got from my post. did the unarmed man deserve to get shot 25 years ago?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Pe..._riots_of_1996

MAYBE, just maybe you should consider the main point, all cops are not pigs, everyone is not a potential criminal getting ready to do bad things. Everyone gets treated the same, with respect, good things happen.

**Bugeater** · 02-22-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not sure how this fits into the story, this was simply a traffic accident.

Because **** da police. That's how it fits.

Skyy God · 02-22-2019, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Just curious..was this unarmed black man standing still with his hands up or possibly resisting or not complying and reaching in his pockets? People think just because someone is unarmed they shouldn’t be shot by police. NOT the case. Officers don’t know if someone is armed or not.

We know your stance on the topic, Grand Dragon.

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

He's probably smart enough to know 99.9% of blacks (or anyone) killed by the police had it coming

10-22-2018, 10:11 AM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	Fatality on I-435 before Chiefs Game I heard Andy mention this in his press conference but hadn't seen any news about it. Apparently the wreck was caused by a cop. Man, and I'm sure the backup trying to get into the stadium from Johnson County was a mess. Story is here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/loca...220422195.html KCPD spokesman Capt. Lionel Colón describes a fatal crash involving a police vehicle on Interstate 435 ahead of Sunday night's Chiefs football game. One person died. Two were critically injured. The officer suffered non-life-threatening injuries. By Joe Robertson A fatal crash that blocked Chiefs game traffic on Interstate 435 Sunday afternoon started when an off-duty Kansas City police officer in a department van rear-ended another vehicle, police said. “This is a tough one,” Kansas City police Capt. Lionel Colón said Sunday night, as he spoke about the multi-vehicle crash that left one person dead, two critically injured and the officer hospitalized with injuries that were not thought to be life-threatening. “We hurt with you,” he said, speaking to families of the victims of the crash. The crash happened shortly after 4 p.m. in the northbound lanes of I-435 just south of Stadium Drive. Colón said the police van rear-ended a vehicle and then two other vehicles were also involved in the crash. Traffic was quickly reduced to one lane, and then was completely shut down by 5 p.m. Traffic backed up for some three miles as Kansas City police crash specialists investigated the scene. Colón said Kansas City Police Chief Rick Smith “is shaken” to hear that an officer has been involved in a fatal crash. “We all are,” Colón said. Late Sunday night, police released more details of the crash. The police van, a blue Ford E350, came upon slow traffic that was lining up on the way to Arrowhead Stadium. The van ran into the rear of a Maroon Mitsubishi Lancer, knocking it into a white Ford Edge, which was forced into a black Chevy Suburban. The police van hit both the Mitsubishi and the Ford Edge before coming to rest to the north of all three other vehicles in the crash. The driver of the Mitsubishi was pronounced dead at the scene. Two passengers in the front and rear of the car were hospitalized with life-threatening injuries. No one in the Ford Edge or the Suburban were seriously injured. The name of the person killed in the crash had not yet been released Sunday night. There was no indication in the preliminary investigation of the scene that any of the drivers in the crash were impaired. The off-duty officer was on the way to Arrowhead Stadium, Colón said, but it was not known if he was going to work at the game or going as a spectator. Many police staff are on-call and will use police vehicles while off-duty so that they can quickly respond if they are called into action, he said. The highway remained shut down for most of three hours leading up to the game, which kicked off at 7:20 p.m. at Arrowhead.
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02-21-2019, 09:39 AM	#76
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3029099	Distracted driving and kills a guy. Get's a 4 month paid vacation w/ a lateral move. Damn this one is frustrating - surely more will come out of this. They can't just say 'oops' and move along. There's no way this was just an excusable incident - you don't drive through the back of someone hard enough to kill an occupant of a modern vehicle if you're paying attention at all. Seriously - the amount of energy vehicles made in the last 20 years can absorb is just remarkable. He had to blast that thing at essentially full speed to do the damage he did. He simply wasn't paying attention and because he's a police officer it appears likely that absolutely nothing will come of it. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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Bugeater The Maintenance Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate Casino cash: $6252680	There's no doubt in my mind that had this been a normal citizen, they would have been immediately charged with motor vehicle homicide. Any level of distrust the public has for KCPD is now justified.
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02-21-2019, 10:41 AM	#79
Bugeater The Maintenance Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate Casino cash: $6252680	I have yet to even see a photo of the result of the accident. They sure are doing a good job of burying the facts on this one.
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02-22-2019, 02:19 AM	#83
007 Shaken. Not stirred. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Casino cash: $14060126 VARSITY	OK, so back in the 90's I knew a girl who killed a electrical worker because she chose to drive under the influence. Enough to be just over the limit. She went to jail and was in court for a couple years until they gave her time served and tons of community service. But this officer gets off scott free with distracted driving at high speeds? That is some bullshit. I support the police but this guy should have lost his job and done time. But definitely make an example of a 19 year old. SMH Don't take this as her being hit to hard. I agree with what she was given. I absolutely do not agree with this officer getting off scott free and able to do the same job again. __________________ My dear girl, there are some things that just aren’t done. Such as, drinking Dom Perignon ’53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs.
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