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Old 02-07-2019, 01:06 PM  
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:26 PM   #76
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Man contract talk on here got so elevated around the time when we all discovered over the cap lol
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:27 PM   #77
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:27 PM   #78
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Man contract talk on here got so elevated around the time when we all discovered over the cap lol
This has always been the best place to get all the info. There are people here that know a ton about stuff like that. It seems like I learn something new every day.
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:31 PM   #79
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:35 PM   #80
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Jez, either get the surgery SOON, or GTFO.
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:42 PM   #81
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Here is the current CBA: https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com...-2011-2020.pdf

These appear to me to be the relevant parts:

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Forfeitable Breach. Any player who (i) willfully fails to report, practice or play with the result that the player’s ability to fully participate and contribute to the team is substantially undermined (for example, without limitation, holding out or leaving the squad absent a showing of extreme personal hardship); or (ii) is unavailable to the team due to conduct by him that results in his incarceration; or (iii) is unavailable to the team due to a nonfootball injury that resulted from a material breach of Paragraph 3 of his NFL Player Contract; or (iv) voluntarily retires (collectively, any “Forfeitable Breach”) may be required to forfeit signing bonus, roster bonus, option bonus and/or reporting bonus, and no other Salary, for each League Year in which a Forfeitable Breach occurs

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Retirement. Should a Forfeitable Breach occur due to player’s retirement, a Club may demand repayment of all Forfeitable Salary Allocations attributable to the proportionate amount, if any, for the present year and the Forfeitable Salary Allocations for future years. If the player fails to repay such amounts, then the Club may seek an award from the System Arbitrator pursuant to Article 15, for repayment of all Forfeitable Salary Allocations attributable to present and future years. Repayment of Forfeitable Salary Allocations attributable to future League Years must be made by June 1st of each League Year for which each Forfeitable Salary Allocation is attributable. If the player returns to play for the Club in the subsequent season, then the Club must either (a) take the player back under his existing contract with no forfeiture of the remaining Forfeitable Salary Allocations, or (b) release the player and seek repayment of any remaining Forfeitable Salary Allocations for future League Years

Nothing about the timing and who knows how long it might take through an arbitrator but I highly doubt it would take years. As noted in my first post here, Barry Sanders was the first case but now there is precedence and it is part of the CBA while it was not when Barry retired and the Lions went after his bonuses.
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:49 PM   #82
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:53 PM   #83
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My understanding is that the Chiefs will be on the hook for his 2019 salary if he gets the surgery and can't pass a physical in March (?). Time to end the relationship.
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:56 PM   #84
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My understanding is that the Chiefs will be on the hook for his 2019 salary if he gets the surgery and can't pass a physical in March (?). Time to end the relationship.
There's a lot that can happen. It will be interesting any way you slice it.

The most unacceptable outcome is no surgery, no roster moves, and a repeat of this year's day-to-day disaster.
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:07 PM   #85
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Link? Link? Link? It didn't happen unless you can see a link... The world, according to SAUTO, NEEDS LINKS AND NOTHING IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT THEM!!! DAMMIT!
Well if you aren't just making it up then it should be pretty easy to get a link, right?
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:08 PM   #86
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I definitely understand exhausting all alternatives before surgery, but it does seem odd that he’s not further along in that process after missing nearly all of this season. What’s left to check off the physical/holistic therapy list after spending ~95% of the season inactive?
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:10 PM   #87
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I'm pretty sure that his salary for 2019 will be fully guaranteed in March. Now, hopefully a June 1 retirement would somehow negate that. But I'm not sure. That would add even more dead cap space. I would hate to see him retire and collect for a 3rd straight season of doing nothing.


Looks like only $2.95M of the base is guaranteed.
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Link?

I do know that players get a physical after the season ends. Not before games though.
It's hard to post a link when you just ask someone.
And i'm not sure what you want a link to. You pretty mech just said the exact same thing I did...

Marcellus brought up ba good point. Do you think kendall fuller passes a physical with a cast on his hand?
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It's hard to post a link when you just ask someone.
And i'm not sure what you want a link to. You pretty mech just said the exact same thing I did...

Marcellus brought up ba good point. Do you think kendall fuller passes a physical with a cast on his hand?
Not to mention that we are talking about Physicals. We have all seen a player fail a physical for one team and pass it for another.
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Here's a link to what answers. Com says it's the preseason criteria for an nfl physical, nothing came up about prior to every game http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the...n_NFL_physical
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