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Old 02-13-2019, 11:51 PM  
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-- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston?

I know it's not popular, but; I'm SO cool w/ him not being here next season. Let me start w/ I LOVE Justin, but it's time for an entire agitation (as far as I'm concerned) -- You guys know how much I loved him, from UGA and what not. Fell to us in the draft after a Marijuana case, and he learned from it!

Don't get it twisted - my opinion is ALL BUSINESS. We will NEVER replace JH next year regarding talent - but if we can SORT of 'come close' w/ regards to a replacement, then I'll be cool. I think if those were the cases; we can add another stud w/ just a slight sub par replacement (at that position) and also: (the ability to add another quality positional starter)

I'd like to hear from my people, here.

If this were to happen - we all know JH will be just fine in finding work w/o reducing to sacking groceries at the Winn Dixie.

Thanks all!
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:32 PM   #76
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:33 PM   #77
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:41 PM   #78
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I believe one probably has to go, but no way in hell am I letting one walk. Houston can be traded, Ford should be tagged at least this year, then tagged and traded next year at minimum.
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:47 PM   #79
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:49 PM   #80
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Thank you for the correct spelling of ‘lose’. There seems to be an epidemic replacing it with ‘loose’ on Chiefsplanet.
it's a lexicon you looser n00b
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:57 PM   #81
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I'm north of the river. Not sure where Justin Houston is, so I can't say
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:08 PM   #82
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Have to consider that those pass rushing numbers are inflated by mahomie giving us leads to work with and other teams abandoning the run
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:10 PM   #83
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He’s not a JAG but most of us here see him for what he is; a one trick pony with a concerning injury history.

Now, granted, he’s really freaking good at his one trick (rushing the passer), but he’s a liability in the other phases.

You don’t sign that type of player to a major long term deal. You just don’t.

Yes, most wanted Berry and Houston re-signed, but we waited a year too long on each, as many have pointed out and did point out at the time. At least with Houston when you signed him to the big contract, you knew you were getting a complete player. He could rush the passer, set the edge against the run and occasionally drop into coverage (yeah, I know) if you needed him to. Houston’s repertoire affords him a lot of value, and potentially even more in the new 4-3 scheme.

Dee Ford? Not so much. I like him and he seems like a good dude, but time to move on. Tag and trade or let him walk. Either/or.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:18 PM   #84
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:20 PM   #85
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:21 PM   #86
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I was trying thumbs up that post and fat-fingered it - I just sent positive rep - this happens to me a lot. Sorry and as always - good to see you posting Jim.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:33 PM   #87
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They can’t realistically keep both Houston and Ford.

Personally, I’d prefer to keep Houston for several reasons already mentioned, but mostly due to the fact that Ford is more of an injury risk.

That said, I think they will try to tag and trade Ford. The risk there is if they don’t get at least a 3rd for him. If not, they’re almost forced to keep Ford and release Houston. If the my keep Houston, I’d prefer they not restructure Houston and kick that can down the road.

Draft a DE to replace whichever one they keep. Give the draftee 1 year to work into the starting role if not sooner.
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It's really going to suck when he goes somewhere else for 11m per year and puts up 15-20 sacks as a full-time DE and is 2nd team All-Pro. We are pretty much screwed unless Houston agrees to a Team-Friendly restructuring. I don't know that we can afford to keep paying him 20-22m even though he's started being productive again.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:40 PM   #89
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I want to re-sign him. If he gets Ryan Kerrigan or clay Matthews money that puts him at $8m per year. That's not bad for what value we'd expect from him in his next contract.
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It'd be nice to keep him but he's going to have to be willing to take a paycut to like half of what he makes now including a base for this next year being low so the Chiefs can stack this D.

If he says no then you move on.
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