Chiefs Berry missed today's practice, back to Day-To-Day. Also Dorian O'Daniel Note - Page 20

JakeF · 01-09-2019, 03:10 PM

Eric Berry misses Wednesday practice, in question for Saturday’s divisional

Guess who’s day to day again.
By Pete Sweeney Jan 9, 2019, 2:10pm CST
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...ivisional-game

Kansas City Chiefs safety Eric Berry is not practicing Wednesday, the second day of work as the team prepares to take on the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday afternoon in the AFC’s divisional round.

Berry missed practice on Friday, December 28, before he was eventually held out of the Chiefs’ final game of the season against the Oakland Raiders. Berry practiced limitedly to start this week on Tuesday, which many felt was a good sign, but he could not participate on Wednesday as he deals with his lingering heel injury.

“It’s difficult from the standpoint of he’s a real critical part of our team,” defensive coordinator Bob Sutton said when asked about the uncertainty surrounding the three-time All-Pro. “He’s an outstanding player. He’s one of our true leaders, the guys rally around him, so I think that part is always hard. You get caught up in different things in the season. But also, if you stick back for a second, you say, ‘Man, this is really hard on this guy, too, as a player. This is something he loves to do. He’s been really good at it, and as difficult as it is on us as a defensive unit or us as a team, I think for him, it’s really challenging.’

“So it’s just what it is. There’s not a lot you can do about it, and every week we’ve got our fingers crossed and hope that he can make it back and go. It’s truly—I know you guys get tired of hearing this—it really is a day to day to day thing here right now, the way it’s playing out. You just got to stay in there and go and figure out how to get other guys ready in case he can’t go.”

Berry was originally held out of the Chiefs’ first 13 games with what the team described as a sore heel, though reports, which have never been confirmed (nor denied) said Berry has what is called a “Haglund’s deformity.”

Berry eventually returned to the lineup to play 30 snaps Week 15 against the Los Angeles Chargers and played 69 snaps Week 16 against the Seattle Seahawks before what has appeared to be some sort of setback.

Sutton was asked Wednesday about who would replace Berry and linebacker Dorian O’Daniel, who hasn’t practiced at all this week, if they couldn’t play against the Colts.

Without Berry in a must-win game against the Raiders when it came to playoff home-field advantage, the safety snap count breakdown was as follows: Daniel Sorensen (63), Eric Murray (33), Jordan Lucas (32) and Ron Parker (6).

In the above breakdown, it is important to note that Sorensen and Lucas earned the start. Lucas suffered a stinger, and the Chiefs eventually removed starters in a 35-3 blowout.

It remains to be seen who the Chiefs start against the Colts if Berry cannot play once again.

A note on Dorian O’Daniel

#Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub on LB Dorian O’Daniel, who has missed two practices this week: “He’s a four-phase starter for us. He’s an important guy, so we’re keeping an eye on that one, pretty close.”

“I wouldn’t tell you,” he initially said with a smile. “We have to work guys in, obviously, and just see where guys are. The one good thing is you’re at the point of the season where if you do have to miss some reps and you get better toward to the end of the week, this is probably the time to do it. We just have to kind of roll guys through, which we try to do, anyway, but when you have a guy in question, you have to say, ‘OK,’ because that usually affects somebody else.

“Sometimes that affects special teams ... It’s going to affect Dave (Toub) and what he’s putting together, so you got to kind of stay on top of that as a total staff, too. But we just got to slide and we’ve got some different options, but we kind of have to wait and see where it’s at.”

Sassy Squatch · 01-10-2019, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Not true at all they do this to keep the other team guessing whether a player will play or not. Every team does it.

I wouldn't worry about it. Whoever is out there on Sunday is who we will roll with and the Chiefs will be ready to go! That's all that matters.

We play Saturday, ya dingus.

ModSocks · 01-10-2019, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Found this tweet from Berry's agent from the middle of December - seems like he's a bit on the defensive?

He’s always done what he says he’s going to do... #ChiefsKindgom #Berrystrong #TNF #Chiefs https://t.co/Mp58K7DoRa
— Chad Speck (@a3Chad) December 13, 2018

Wait....wtf...Eric Berry had surgery in December?

Sassy Squatch · 01-10-2019, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Wait....wtf...Eric Berry had surgery in December?

No. It's a retweet. From Sept 17, 2017

Frazod · 01-10-2019, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Wait....wtf...Eric Berry had surgery in December?

That video is from 2017.

ModSocks · 01-10-2019, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

No. It's a retweet. From Sept 17, 2017

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Originally Posted by Frazod

That video is from 2017.

oooohhhhhh

Marcellus · 01-10-2019, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Wait....wtf...Eric Berry had surgery in December?

That video is from last season.

Marcellus · 01-10-2019, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

All it is a pain management issue. If he couldn't go at anytime in the first half of the season they should have just put him on IR so he could have had the surgery.

John Wall played with this same exact issue for 5 seasons until he couldn't handle it anymore and had surgery. Berry should have done the same.

I'm beginning to believe that Berry refuses to take painkillers.

Not saying its right or he should do that but its the only thing that makes sense.

TwistedChief · 01-10-2019, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

I think that the loss of Watkins significantly changed our offense. Watkins kept defenses from doubling Kelce and Hill at the same time. Golden Tate would have provided the same protection.

I look back and see how our offense changed when Watkins and LDT got hurt. We were still productive but it was much more of a struggle. Then we lost Kareem Hunt. More and more was being dumped on the back of Mahomes.

Our offense is still great but it would be much smoother with a strong #2 receiver.

One positive about losing Watkins was how it sped up the development of Mahomes. He had to learn how to carry our team very early on.

Oh my. Watkins was injured in the Browns game which was after the trade deadline. Do you even try to make logical arguments?

JakeF · 01-10-2019, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

We need to be like the chargers and put dbs out there instead of linebackers

They put 3 safeties out at linebacker but our safeties suck too much to play linebacker.

We need to go the exact opposite direction. Put more pass rushers out there because those are our better players. 5-2-4.

Houston, Jones, Williams, Nnadi, Ford

Hitchens,O'Daniel (hope he can play)

Fuller,Ward,Nelson (nickle)

Sorenson as only safety

Hope our pass rush can protect our shitty secondary

Chiefnj2 · 01-10-2019, 05:48 PM

Berry hasn't played 95% of the season. It was just hopeful thinking that he could pull a Sanders.

The bigger disppointment is Watkins. I don't see him playing a snap when he hasn't had a full practice in over a month.

**RealSNR** · 01-10-2019, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

If folks want him cut then that's their business. But to suggest he should be used "until he snaps" and then "thrown in the trash" is straight gutter talk to me. They don't look at these players as humans imo, they are there to entertain and then thrown away like garbage. It's pitiful and much of the fans "love" for these players is fake as ****

Eric Berry already got his ****ing money when he was a goddamn rookie. That contract was ****ing huge. Then he got cancer and we continued to pay his salary when we didn't have to. It's great that he roared back in his recovery and all, but Dorsey was clearly aware of what cancer does to a body. He wanted to protect the franchise and the business, which he's supposed to do. Unfortunately for him, he decided to do it against a cancer survivor, and that got him fired.

So Berry gets even more money. Lots of it. Guaranteed. He didn't need that 5 year deal. He didn't need ALL of that guaranteed money. But he sure as **** put up a fuss about it after how he was supposedly mistreated by the franchise. He got it, and then this shit happened to him. His body broke down.

When football (and all sports, really) are such a team game, yeah, you'd like to side with the players, but every time a guy gets paid, it takes away the flexibility to acquire other great players who can help us win more games. Playoff games, specifically. Home playoff games where 90% of the fanbase would mud wrestle their own grandmothers for a home playoff win, particularly against a team that just so happens to wreck their shit in agonizing ways.

And when a guy GOT paid in his rookie deal, and got paid when the team didn't have to, and then threw a tantrum until he got paid again LONGTERM, and when the shit we were afraid of paying him for actually happened, business is handled in this cryptic "day-to-day" way when the defense is absolute ****ing dogshit and could (and probably will) cost us a Super Bowl victory...

Well, fans get sick of that shit. At that point, the player who deserved to get paid (even though he already got his money) loses their respect. If he were just on the field but his play quality had gone down a couple notches (like Houston) there wouldn't be the backlash. Instead, we get tweets about his spirit and the same coaches "day to day" line. He didn't play 95% of the ****ing season and we were told "day-to-day". And he can't even retire without still ****ing us over capwise.

That's how bullshit his contract was. He hung out the franchise who cared for him out to ****ing dry. Yeah, the NFL is a business, BUT HE ALREADY GOT HIS ****ING MONEY. Berry was flat-out vindictive in that contract Clark negotiated.

He's not gonna be back. If he does get this thing fixed and is his old self again, great, but at this point, not even Marcellus is predicting that will happen.

He lost my respect. He's financially comfortable. He's cancer-free. So excuse ****ing me for comparing him to a tool or a machine that's just about at the end of its usefulness and needs to be thrown away. But that's basically what his career is now.

-King- · 01-10-2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Before relevant questions, go read all of his posts

phisherman · 01-10-2019, 06:07 PM

What if Reid is pulling the old rope-a-dope with Berry just to throw off the Colts game planning? I would assume that game planning for the Chiefs with Berry and without Berry are two different things? That's something ol' Belicheck would do!

R Clark · 01-10-2019, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman

What if Reid is pulling the old rope-a-dope with Berry just to throw off the Colts game planning? I would assume that game planning for the Chiefs with Berry and without Berry are two different things? That's something ol' Belicheck would do!

Wishful thinking at its best

Sassy Squatch · 01-10-2019, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by phisherman

What if Reid is pulling the old rope-a-dope with Berry just to throw off the Colts game planning? I would assume that game planning for the Chiefs with Berry and without Berry are two different things? That's something ol' Belicheck would do!

Don't do this to yourself.

01-09-2019, 03:10 PM
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Berry missed today's practice, back to Day-To-Day. Also Dorian O'Daniel Note Eric Berry misses Wednesday practice, in question for Saturday’s divisional Guess who’s day to day again. By Pete Sweeney Jan 9, 2019, 2:10pm CST https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...ivisional-game Kansas City Chiefs safety Eric Berry is not practicing Wednesday, the second day of work as the team prepares to take on the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday afternoon in the AFC’s divisional round. Berry missed practice on Friday, December 28, before he was eventually held out of the Chiefs’ final game of the season against the Oakland Raiders. Berry practiced limitedly to start this week on Tuesday, which many felt was a good sign, but he could not participate on Wednesday as he deals with his lingering heel injury. “It’s difficult from the standpoint of he’s a real critical part of our team,” defensive coordinator Bob Sutton said when asked about the uncertainty surrounding the three-time All-Pro. “He’s an outstanding player. He’s one of our true leaders, the guys rally around him, so I think that part is always hard. You get caught up in different things in the season. But also, if you stick back for a second, you say, ‘Man, this is really hard on this guy, too, as a player. This is something he loves to do. He’s been really good at it, and as difficult as it is on us as a defensive unit or us as a team, I think for him, it’s really challenging.’ “So it’s just what it is. There’s not a lot you can do about it, and every week we’ve got our fingers crossed and hope that he can make it back and go. It’s truly—I know you guys get tired of hearing this—it really is a day to day to day thing here right now, the way it’s playing out. You just got to stay in there and go and figure out how to get other guys ready in case he can’t go.” Berry was originally held out of the Chiefs’ first 13 games with what the team described as a sore heel, though reports, which have never been confirmed (nor denied) said Berry has what is called a “Haglund’s deformity.” Berry eventually returned to the lineup to play 30 snaps Week 15 against the Los Angeles Chargers and played 69 snaps Week 16 against the Seattle Seahawks before what has appeared to be some sort of setback. Sutton was asked Wednesday about who would replace Berry and linebacker Dorian O’Daniel, who hasn’t practiced at all this week, if they couldn’t play against the Colts. Without Berry in a must-win game against the Raiders when it came to playoff home-field advantage, the safety snap count breakdown was as follows: Daniel Sorensen (63), Eric Murray (33), Jordan Lucas (32) and Ron Parker (6). In the above breakdown, it is important to note that Sorensen and Lucas earned the start. Lucas suffered a stinger, and the Chiefs eventually removed starters in a 35-3 blowout. It remains to be seen who the Chiefs start against the Colts if Berry cannot play once again. A note on Dorian O’Daniel #Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub on LB Dorian O’Daniel, who has missed two practices this week: “He’s a four-phase starter for us. He’s an important guy, so we’re keeping an eye on that one, pretty close.” “I wouldn’t tell you,” he initially said with a smile. “We have to work guys in, obviously, and just see where guys are. The one good thing is you’re at the point of the season where if you do have to miss some reps and you get better toward to the end of the week, this is probably the time to do it. We just have to kind of roll guys through, which we try to do, anyway, but when you have a guy in question, you have to say, ‘OK,’ because that usually affects somebody else. “Sometimes that affects special teams ... It’s going to affect Dave (Toub) and what he’s putting together, so you got to kind of stay on top of that as a total staff, too. But we just got to slide and we’ve got some different options, but we kind of have to wait and see where it’s at.”
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7913688	Berry hasn't played 95% of the season. It was just hopeful thinking that he could pull a Sanders. The bigger disppointment is Watkins. I don't see him playing a snap when he hasn't had a full practice in over a month. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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phisherman King Sandbagger Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Summit, MO Casino cash: $1695484	What if Reid is pulling the old rope-a-dope with Berry just to throw off the Colts game planning? I would assume that game planning for the Chiefs with Berry and without Berry are two different things? That's something ol' Belicheck would do!
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