Chiefs Then & Now...Week 6 vs. AFCCG - Page 6

**petegz28** · 03:49 PM

There are some significant differences between the 2 games that are largely favoring the Chiefs imo.

1. Obviously it is at Arrowhead not Gillete + Chiefs

2. Josh Gordon will not be running around in the secondary + Chiefs

3. Kareem Hunt will not be pwning the NE D + Pats

4. Shaw (WHO?) will not be covering Gronk + Chiefs

5. Speaks will not be starting for Houston + Chiefs

6. Wylie will be starting for LDT - Wash

7. Ward will be playing at CB instead of whoever did in Week 6 + Chiefs

8. Lucas will be starting at Safety instead of ???? + Chiefs

9. (Edit) The Pats will not go with 0 penalties accepted + Chiefs

Those are some very significant differences for this game and primarily on the defensive side of the ball. Take away a couple of offensive mistakes in week 6 and we still win. Now bring it to our house with an improved defense, at least personnel wise.

htismaqe · 01-15-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

24th in the NFL according to NFL.com on 3rd down.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...alse&Submit=Go

I stand corrected.

To be clear, I was talking about at home. But it appears they fell to 20th since the last time I looked:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

By the way, that NFL.com link, for me, doesn't show 3rd down percentage.

203Pat · 01-15-2019, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What's interesting is that in the past, it wasn't really pressure that got to Brady with KC. It was that we basically dared him to sit in the pocket forever. We choked off a lot of his short game. Will be harder to do with tighter PI rules and now that NE has a better run game. But there's something to be said for how our D has in the past frustrated Brady not by pressure, but by coverage. I'd say that was true not just for us, but many Rex Ryan defenses.

True the pass rush killed us that game. Nate Solder was a turnstile and Hali and Houston were just teeing off on Brady. About as bad a loss as I have ever seen in the BB/Brady era. At least they used it as fuel to another super bowl run.

Hammock Parties · 01-15-2019, 02:57 PM

LDT went out in the middle of the Pats game IIRC

RobertWeathers · 01-15-2019, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I stand corrected.

To be clear, I was talking about at home. But it appears they fell to 20th since the last time I looked:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

By the way, that NFL.com link, for me, doesn't show 3rd down percentage.

Ah ok. Yea you guys are a MUCH better D at home.

Weird how the link doesn't work.

So the NFL had y'all at 24 and this has you at 20th. NFL had us at 13 and this 16th. Whatever.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

htismaqe · 01-15-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

Ah ok. Yea you guys are a MUCH better D at home.

Weird how the link doesn't work.

So the NFL had y'all at 24 and this has you at 20th. NFL had us at 13 and this 16th. Whatever.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

I just noticed that Team Rankings has a date up at the top, it looks like you can filter by date. By default, it's today's date, so it seems the stats include playoffs whereas the NFL site separates regular season from postseason.

Stands to reason the Chiefs would have improved from 24th to 20th then because the Colts were 0-9 on 3rd down.

RobertWeathers · 01-15-2019, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I just noticed that Team Rankings has a date up at the top, it looks like you can filter by date. By default, it's today's date, so it seems the stats include playoffs whereas the NFL site separates regular season from postseason.

Stands to reason the Chiefs would have improved from 24th to 20th then because the Colts were 0-9 on 3rd down.

yea its a good site.

Yehoodi · 01-15-2019, 08:42 PM

Should be a good game Sunday.

The Pats generally ramp up the season slowly, using September as basically an extended preseason.

Typically, one does not know the make up their team till November. So the Pats teams will look different later in the year than it did earlier in the year.

We played you guys week 6 and only had Gordon for a few weeks, so his loss might not be that big.

The good news for the Pats is that we are essentially all healthy and have reeled off a few good games recently although had two stinker against Miami and Pitt. in December

This past Sunday's game may not translate to this weekend, but we are in good shape and will give it a go on Sunday.

01-14-2019, 02:55 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2884127	Then & Now...Week 6 vs. AFCCG There are some significant differences between the 2 games that are largely favoring the Chiefs imo. 1. Obviously it is at Arrowhead not Gillete + Chiefs 2. Josh Gordon will not be running around in the secondary + Chiefs 3. Kareem Hunt will not be pwning the NE D + Pats 4. Shaw (WHO?) will not be covering Gronk + Chiefs 5. Speaks will not be starting for Houston + Chiefs 6. Wylie will be starting for LDT - Wash 7. Ward will be playing at CB instead of whoever did in Week 6 + Chiefs 8. Lucas will be starting at Safety instead of ???? + Chiefs 9. (Edit) The Pats will not go with 0 penalties accepted + Chiefs Those are some very significant differences for this game and primarily on the defensive side of the ball. Take away a couple of offensive mistakes in week 6 and we still win. Now bring it to our house with an improved defense, at least personnel wise. Last edited by petegz28; 01-14-2019 at 03:49 PM..
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Yehoodi Starter Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Massachusetts Casino cash: $10000400	Should be a good game Sunday. The Pats generally ramp up the season slowly, using September as basically an extended preseason. Typically, one does not know the make up their team till November. So the Pats teams will look different later in the year than it did earlier in the year. We played you guys week 6 and only had Gordon for a few weeks, so his loss might not be that big. The good news for the Pats is that we are essentially all healthy and have reeled off a few good games recently although had two stinker against Miami and Pitt. in December This past Sunday's game may not translate to this weekend, but we are in good shape and will give it a go on Sunday.
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