Fatality on I-435 before Chiefs Game

[gblowfish]

I heard Andy mention this in his press conference but hadn't seen any news about it. Apparently the wreck was caused by a cop. Man, and I'm sure the backup trying to get into the stadium from Johnson County was a mess. Story is here:

https://www.kansascity.com/news/loca...220422195.html

KCPD spokesman Capt. Lionel Colón describes a fatal crash involving a police vehicle on Interstate 435 ahead of Sunday night's Chiefs football game. One person died. Two were critically injured. The officer suffered non-life-threatening injuries.

By Joe Robertson

A fatal crash that blocked Chiefs game traffic on Interstate 435 Sunday afternoon started when an off-duty Kansas City police officer in a department van rear-ended another vehicle, police said.

“This is a tough one,” Kansas City police Capt. Lionel Colón said Sunday night, as he spoke about the multi-vehicle crash that left one person dead, two critically injured and the officer hospitalized with injuries that were not thought to be life-threatening.

“We hurt with you,” he said, speaking to families of the victims of the crash.

The crash happened shortly after 4 p.m. in the northbound lanes of I-435 just south of Stadium Drive.

Colón said the police van rear-ended a vehicle and then two other vehicles were also involved in the crash.

Traffic was quickly reduced to one lane, and then was completely shut down by 5 p.m. Traffic backed up for some three miles as Kansas City police crash specialists investigated the scene.

Colón said Kansas City Police Chief Rick Smith “is shaken” to hear that an officer has been involved in a fatal crash. “We all are,” Colón said.

Late Sunday night, police released more details of the crash. The police van, a blue Ford E350, came upon slow traffic that was lining up on the way to Arrowhead Stadium. The van ran into the rear of a Maroon Mitsubishi Lancer, knocking it into a white Ford Edge, which was forced into a black Chevy Suburban.

The police van hit both the Mitsubishi and the Ford Edge before coming to rest to the north of all three other vehicles in the crash.

The driver of the Mitsubishi was pronounced dead at the scene. Two passengers in the front and rear of the car were hospitalized with life-threatening injuries. No one in the Ford Edge or the Suburban were seriously injured.

The name of the person killed in the crash had not yet been released Sunday night.

There was no indication in the preliminary investigation of the scene that any of the drivers in the crash were impaired.

The off-duty officer was on the way to Arrowhead Stadium, Colón said, but it was not known if he was going to work at the game or going as a spectator.

Many police staff are on-call and will use police vehicles while off-duty so that they can quickly respond if they are called into action, he said.

The highway remained shut down for most of three hours leading up to the game, which kicked off at 7:20 p.m. at Arrowhead.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not sure how this fits into the story, this was simply a traffic accident.

Because every excuse fits for cops.


He saw the driver of the car with a black object and thought it was a gun and had no choice but to ram the car.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 007

I know officers as well. For the most part they are all good people. My point above was regarding this specific officer. He killed an innocent human being by being negligent. People go to jail for vehicular manslaughter. Not for the same amount of time as somebody with a DUI that did the same. But they do serve time and punishment for the action.

Giving this guy a slap on the wrist and putting him back out there is bullshit.

I respect the police and the job they have to do. Nothing in my post stated otherwise. Calling what I said similar to a witch hunt is not fair at all.

You do know this is pretty rare right? There is always someone at fault in a fatality accident. Always. And people rarely go to jail.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by -King-

Because every excuse fits for cops.


He saw the driver of the car with a black object and thought it was a gun and had no choice but to ram the car.

Not quite enough racial strife for you these days huh? Better create some out of thin air!

[007]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You do know this is pretty rare right? There is always someone at fault in a fatality accident. Always. And people rarely go to jail.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. If I had done this I would expect the law to punish me accordingly. Not just a slap in the wrist and move on. You killed a person.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by 007

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. If I had done this I would expect the law to punish me accordingly. Not just a slap in the wrist and move on. You killed a person.

He's right.

There are more ways you can kill a person in a motor vehicle accident and NOT go to jail than there are ways you can kill a person and end up going to jail.

Again - criminal negligence is a much higher bar than y'all are discussing. Even being on the phone is almost certainly not going to qualify. Texting with one hand, eating a sandwich with the other and driving 80 mph with your knees might get you there.

But you're essentially saying that any negligence, even simple negligence, that ends in a death will mean jail time. That's simply not the case.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by 007

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. If I had done this I would expect the law to punish me accordingly. Not just a slap in the wrist and move on. You killed a person.

And sentenced another to life with brain damage.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by 007

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. If I had done this I would expect the law to punish me accordingly. Not just a slap in the wrist and move on. You killed a person.

I have a story for you sometime. Way too long to type out.

[thebrad84]

Originally Posted by 007

Giving this guy a slap on the wrist and putting him back out there is bullshit.

You do realize that neither of these things have occurred, yes? He hasn't received a "slap," as they just finished their investigation and sent it to the Jackson County District Attorney's Office for review. So it hasn't yet been determined if he will be charged with anything and what sentence might be imposed.

As far as the "put him back out there," he was assigned to evidence and property, which means he won't be out patrolling neighborhoods or driving city vehicles very often, if at all. What's funny is plenty of people bitched about him getting paid leave, meaning he was still getting a pay check despite not doing a damn thing for his department. At least in this case he is providing a service to the department while waiting to see what Jackson County DA does with his case.

[Sorry]

Originally Posted by thebrad84

You do realize that neither of these things have occurred, yes? He hasn't received a "slap," as they just finished their investigation and sent it to the Jackson County District Attorney's Office for review. So it hasn't yet been determined if he will be charged with anything and what sentence might be imposed.

As far as the "put him back out there," he was assigned to evidence and property, which means he won't be out patrolling neighborhoods or driving city vehicles very often, if at all. What's funny is plenty of people bitched about him getting paid leave, meaning he was still getting a pay check despite not doing a damn thing for his department. At least in this case he is providing a service to the department while waiting to see what Jackson County DA does with his case.

Explain this to he dead kids parents

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He's right.

There are more ways you can kill a person in a motor vehicle accident and NOT go to jail than there are ways you can kill a person and end up going to jail.

Again - criminal negligence is a much higher bar than y'all are discussing. Even being on the phone is almost certainly not going to qualify. Texting with one hand, eating a sandwich with the other and driving 80 mph with your knees might get you there.

But you're essentially saying that any negligence, even simple negligence, that ends in a death will mean jail time. That's simply not the case.

then there is what was the distraction that led to the death. It’s different if your looking at porn on your phone? Texting? Or your kid unbuckled their seat belt and your trying to get them locked in again? What’s an acceptable distraction to cause a death that goes into accidents happen on the road?

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by thebrad84

You do realize that neither of these things have occurred, yes? He hasn't received a "slap," as they just finished their investigation and sent it to the Jackson County District Attorney's Office for review. So it hasn't yet been determined if he will be charged with anything and what sentence might be imposed.

As far as the "put him back out there," he was assigned to evidence and property, which means he won't be out patrolling neighborhoods or driving city vehicles very often, if at all. What's funny is plenty of people bitched about him getting paid leave, meaning he was still getting a pay check despite not doing a damn thing for his department. At least in this case he is providing a service to the department while waiting to see what Jackson County DA does with his case.

I hope they ruin this bozos life just like he ruined the victim and his families life.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Not quite enough racial strife for you these days huh? Better create some out of thin air!

At what point did I mention or talk about race? Wtf are you talking about?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Not quite enough racial strife for you these days huh? Better create some out of thin air!

Gotta love the irony.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by thebrad84

You do realize that neither of these things have occurred, yes? He hasn't received a "slap," as they just finished their investigation and sent it to the Jackson County District Attorney's Office for review. So it hasn't yet been determined if he will be charged with anything and what sentence might be imposed.

As far as the "put him back out there," he was assigned to evidence and property, which means he won't be out patrolling neighborhoods or driving city vehicles very often, if at all. What's funny is plenty of people bitched about him getting paid leave, meaning he was still getting a pay check despite not doing a damn thing for his department. At least in this case he is providing a service to the department while waiting to see what Jackson County DA does with his case.

Firing is an option you know. If this was a private enterprise he would of been fired as soon as it was determined he was at fault.

[TribalElder]

Cops murder minority kids all the time and just get away with it, no different here

Swept under the rug by legalized gang members