Request: let's not make this about one play

[suzzer99]

This game came down to basically a coin flip. Hats off to the GOAT QB, GOAT coach and incredible offense who made every single play when they needed to.

What I personally don't want is for this to become "The Dee Ford Game" or one of the other plays. We stood toe to toe with the greatest coach and QB of all time, and lost by a hair.

Also Brady may have seen the flag and knew he had a free play - which might have affected his decisions.

This game came down to 100 plays imo - the pats made 51 of them, we made 49.

IMO - let's just keep that as the narrative in our minds. I don't want to add this game to the canon of "we got ****ed" games. We didn't get ****ed imo. We just made one less play than they did in a classic nail-biter that came down to a handful of plays.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

The change of possession that was nullified by the 5 yard penalty, good god you are stupid.

Really? It's more than the 6 or 7 pts?

Stupid ?

We would have been up at that point and instead of tied at the end of regulation, we would have been 6 or 7 pts ahead !

Who's stupid ?

Thanks for playing, been great!

[Ron Swanson]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Really? It's more than the 6 or 7 pts?

Stupid ?

We would have been up at that point and instead of tied at the end of regulation, we would have been 6 or 7 pts ahead !

Who's stupid ?

Thanks for playing, been great!

The game was over if he didn't line up offsides, how dumb are you?

[-King-]

It's so hard not to play the "if only x happened instead of y" game right now.

[Ron Swanson]

Originally Posted by -King-

It's so hard not to play the "if only x happened instead of y" game right now.

It's pretty simple to say if Ford hadn't lined up like a moron, the Chiefs would be in the Super Bowl.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

The game was over if he didn't line up offsides, how dumb are you?

Not at all, you are failing to see my side. " If " this or " If " that, had we scored 6 or 7pts the 1st half like I said, hell, even 3, Ford's screw up wouldn't have mattered much!

Just going by your take, the only mistake in the game ( Ford's ) ,yes, we lost because of it.

But that was not the only mistake in the game!

Now, what were you saying about " Stupid " and " dumb " ?

Like I said, thanks for playing the game. Oh, BTW, in case you are too stupid or dumb to figure it out, you lost this argument!

[Ron Swanson]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Not at all, you are failing to see my side. " If " this or " If " that, had we scored 6 or 7pts the 1st half like I said, hell, even 3, Ford's screw up wouldn't have mattered much!

Just going by your take, the only mistake in the game ( Ford's ) ,yes, we lost because of it.

But that was not the only mistake in the game!

Now, what were you saying about " Stupid " and " dumb " ?

Like I said, thanks for playing the game. Oh, BTW, in case you are too stupid or dumb to figure it out, you lost this argument!

Of course it wasn't the only mistake in the game, but it was the one that literally cost them making the Super Bowl due to a blatant mental error.

[DTVietnam]

im depressed

but without dee ford we dont even make the playoffs

this is the life of a chiefs fan...some of yall still dont get it

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by -King-

It's so hard not to play the "if only x happened instead of y" game right now.

It is, but you can't get wrapped up in it. There are way too many plays during the course of the game that can change by 1 play. If you say " if this, or if that " then what affects does that have in the outcome of the next few plays have that would be different that what we saw happen during the game.

You win as a team, you lose as a team, it's "NEVER" the results of 1 player or just 1 play!

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Of course it wasn't the only mistake in the game, but it was the one that literally cost them making the Super Bowl due to a blatant mental error.

It was a mental error that has lasting, game changing effects of the outcome due to the time frame of the game.

How many other " mental " mistakes did our players make that are going unnoticed right now only because you want to focus on "only 1 play "?

Pat was frustrated with Kelce on 1 play acting like he ran a bad route, the ball wasn't close to him. Had that play worked, would the next play of been a game changing play ?

Oh the " What If " game?

[Indian Chief]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

1 player with just 1 play, you want to lay the blame on 1 play, sure it was a boneheaded play.

But so was missing a wide open Williams in the 1st half for a TD. That's 6, 7 pts and Ford is not the topic. Everybody is happy saying how great this team is, yadda yadda yadda.

What about the sack Pat took after that missed Williams play, takes us out of FG range. Sure Andy could have went for it. But we make that 3 pts, Ford's play is irrelevant.

What if Brady doesn't throw that Red Zone INT, we lose by more points! Yadda Yadda Yadda....

Damn the " what if " game sure is big when you have 100 + snaps in a game!

People on this site love to quote you and then completely ignore everything you said and argue something entirely different.

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

The other guys are professionals as well, and so if someone straight up beats you on a play or you get out coached, then you tip your hat. When you fail to do something as simple as line up properly, that's on you. It 100% does not involve anyone else in the game. It isn't even like he jumped offsides on a hard count when you could say, "well Brady made a great play." Dee Ford did something so stupid and so inexcusable that he does not get a pass.

You did not refute ANYTHING I said. Not one thing. Everything I said is 100% accurate. I never said I was laying the blame on one play. I said he doesn't get a pass. There were many other screw ups. But no one has a time machine and we can't change the past. The only thing we know for sure is that at that point in the game, Dee Ford made a completely unforced error. He beat himself and his team. Mahomes overthrew a few balls with guys in his face. Hill made a dumb mistake on the punt return. But at least those were mistakes in the heat of the moment with guys trying to make a play. Dee Ford managed to screw up standing there. That's all. For the record, I didn't play the "what if" game. You did. Ford screwed up. I didn't say to kick him off the team.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

It's pretty simple to say if Ford hadn't lined up like a moron, the Chiefs would be in the Super Bowl.

If Brady hadn't of thrown that INT in the Red Zone the 1st half, there wouldn't have been an OT?

" If " ?

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

People on this site love to quote you and then completely ignore everything you said and argue something entirely different.



You did not refute ANYTHING I said. Not one thing. Everything I said is 100% accurate. I never said I was laying the blame on one play. I said he doesn't get a pass. There were many other screw ups. But no one has a time machine and we can't change the past. The only thing we know for sure is that at that point in the game, Dee Ford made a completely unforced error. He beat himself and his team. Mahomes overthrew a few balls with guys in his face. Hill made a dumb mistake on the punt return. But at least those were mistakes in the heat of the moment with guys trying to make a play. Dee Ford managed to screw up standing there. That's all. For the record, I didn't play the "what if" game. You did. Ford screwed up. I didn't say to kick him off the team.

I'm not saying Ford wasn't at fault for the penalty! He was 100 % at fault, but it's " just 1 play "! We left way too many pts out there we didn't get.

Played like crap the whole 1st half!

That's a pretty good reason we lost!

Our defense gave up too many points! That's a good reason !

As I have said many times, in a game that has 80 to 120 plays, snaps, etc, you can not put the blame on just 1 play !

[Bugeater]

Roy...do yourself a favor and stop...just stop.

[JD10367]

The Chiefs couldn’t score in the first half. They couldn’t stop the run. They couldn’t run the ball. They couldn’t defend the seam against Edelman. The vaunted pass rush didn’t get to Brady once. Mahomes missed a few shots. If it weren’t for two stupid Brady throws the Chiefs wouldn’t have been that close. They gave up over 500 yards and basically let the opponent double their yardage and TOP. All of this in their own house. You want to blame one scapegoat or whine about the refs, go ahead, but you’re wrong.

It’s a testament to Mahomes and the Chiefs that, even WITH all that, they almost pulled it off. This is only the beginning for them. Mahomes will dominate for years and the Chiefs WILL be perennial AFFCG participants.

(Although you do have to get rid of Sutton.)

[Clyde Frog]

Originally Posted by JD10367

The Chiefs couldn’t score in the first half. They couldn’t stop the run. They couldn’t run the ball. They couldn’t defend the seam against Edelman. The vaunted pass rush didn’t get to Brady once. Mahomes missed a few shots. If it weren’t for two stupid Brady throws the Chiefs wouldn’t have been that close. They gave up over 500 yards and basically let the opponent double their yardage and TOP. All of this in their own house. You want to blame one scapegoat or whine about the refs, go ahead, but you’re wrong.

It’s a testament to Mahomes and the Chiefs that, even WITH all that, they almost pulled it off. This is only the beginning for them. Mahomes will dominate for years and the Chiefs WILL be perennial AFFCG participants.

(Although you do have to get rid of Sutton.)

"Roughing the passer" apparently only works one way.