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Old 01-20-2019, 10:51 PM  
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What an INCREDIBLE season!!!

Title says it all. I wanted to wait until after the game to hold off on the knee-jerk responses. But I first want to start out with the positives of this game. Patrick Mahomes is going to have the Chiefs in this kind of position for years to come. Did anyone think we would have this type of performance out of him? He has so much raw talent that it has made up for his lack of experience. He needs games like this to get better. And he will improve and be that much more potent!

The defense also played well, especially in the first half. By time late second half rolled around they were gassed from being out on the field most of the first half. The cold didnt help. First half offense just got their butts kicked. There is no way around that. Patriots came to play and they confused Mahomes early and often. They took the Chiefs out of their game plan. They played tight man and were able to bring pressure which disrupted timing. This is where Reid and company dropped the ball IMO.

This offense is predicated on big plays. Mahomes being a home run hitter is always looking to air it out downfield. And thats great if your OL can protect you long enough for the receivers to run those long routes. However, as we saw tonight, the patriots were able to pressure Mahomes often. Especially in the first half. I dont know why Reid and company didnt throw in more screens, slants, short passes to the williams coming out of the backfield or mis-directions against a aggressive defense. They needed to get the ball out of Mahomes hands quicker. Romo pointed this out several times on air. This is why they were held scoreless in the first half. The patriots took the chiefs out of their game-plan.

Defense played great and was clutch until the 4th Qtr. Looking at just the QB stats of both teams, Mahomes outplayed Brady, especially in the second half. Mahomes was 16 of 31 for 295 yards and 3 TDs, to bradys 30 of 46 for 348 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT's (should have been 3, but more on that later). Bradys QB rating was 77 to Mahomes 117. The first half is what killed the Chiefs. They scored 31 points again in the 2nd half after adjustments. But missing williams wide open on a wheel route really came back to bite us. Then Mahomes gets tackled for a loss the very next play taking the Chiefs out of field goal range. Again, you gotta get rid of the ball quicker. Cant take the sack in that situation.

Clock management was an issue. I realize we have a high flying offense. And its fun to watch them get big yardage. But its the 4th Qtr with 3-4 minutes left. The patriots have the most clutch QB in NFL history, and 3 TO's. RUN THE BALL! Take a break from being pass happy for a few downs and MILK THE CLOCK! Im glad they scored, but it was a HUGE mistake to not at least run the ball on a couple downs on that drive. Dont give the most clutch QB in NFL history 3 minutes with 3 TO's to go down and win the game!!! BTW, Someone needs to tell Dee Ford where the neutral zone is! If he positions his hand 6" back from the LOS, the Chiefs win that game by picking brady off for a 3rd time.

Keys to this game were the patriots taking the chiefs out of their game plan early, and the Chiefs failing to answer them when they needed to. Defense had 3 straight attempts of 3rd and 10 in OT. And they couldnt get off the field. Not one sack on Brady either. Dee Ford getting offsides on a brady interception was a killer. Also I think the NFL playoff OT rules suck. Mahomes didnt get a single chance to respond to Brady. Youd think a league that values QB above all other positions would give the other team a chance to respond with a TD.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:19 AM   #46
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It was incredible and they exceeded everyone's expectations. Get home field next season they will be in the SB.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:20 AM   #47
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Why do I have the feeling this will be the season opener?



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Old 01-21-2019, 04:42 AM   #48
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The Chiefs have had some really poor coaches (Edwards, Haley, Crennel) before Andy came along so I know that these seem like good times to you. Unfortunately I happen to live 30-minutes south of Philly and I am a Eagles fan also.

After living through 14-years of coming close with Andy Reid I was ecstatic to see him move on - until I found out he was moving to my beloved Chiefs. At least the Chiefs games are interesting, but I don't have the hope that many of you have that future years will be better. I have been disappointed on gameday too often to see a bright future with Andy. Our only hope is for the players to outplay the coaching and the inevitable bad calls, and they didn't do that today even with home field advantage. And with the inevitable exodus of quality players due to payroll limitations, this team won't stay together.

On the bright side, I don't see how the defense can get any worse and practically any new defensive coordinator should provide improvement.
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Old 01-21-2019, 05:27 AM   #49
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:23 PM   #50
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I thought that too. Either will be the first game of the season if the pats win the superbowl or a sunday night game/mnf game.

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The Chiefs have had some really poor coaches (Edwards, Haley, Crennel) before Andy came along so I know that these seem like good times to you. Unfortunately I happen to live 30-minutes south of Philly and I am a Eagles fan also.

After living through 14-years of coming close with Andy Reid I was ecstatic to see him move on - until I found out he was moving to my beloved Chiefs. At least the Chiefs games are interesting, but I don't have the hope that many of you have that future years will be better. I have been disappointed on gameday too often to see a bright future with Andy. Our only hope is for the players to outplay the coaching and the inevitable bad calls, and they didn't do that today even with home field advantage. And with the inevitable exodus of quality players due to payroll limitations, this team won't stay together.

On the bright side, I don't see how the defense can get any worse and practically any new defensive coordinator should provide improvement.
This was the biggest gripe eagle fans warned us about. Especially when it comes to the post season. I was yelling for them to run the football on our last TD drive. You dont want to score to quick and give brady 3 minutes and 3 timeouts to go down and win the game. We needed to milk clock on that drive. And we didnt.

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Old 01-21-2019, 06:35 PM   #51
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Yes, congrats on an incredible season. I wanted you guys to make it to the big game, but no doubt you will have a shot at it again next season. Your team's got some awesome years ahead.
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:07 PM   #52
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It was an incredible season. Teams always say the "Goal is the Super Bowl", but for those actually in charge of long range planning, the hope was to get Mahomes adjusted this year and build the defense towards the 2019/20 season. This team, by that measure, is ahead of schedule. Mahomes raised everyone's expectations... and timetables.

I don't understand people's obsessions with "predicting the future". Is there a prize for doing it? Montana didn't go to the Super Bowl until he was a 6 year pro. Sometimes greatness happens, in part, because of good circumstances. Sometimes a particular division is a mess, like the AFC East, that makes the road easier. Sometimes an entire Conference is a mess, Buffalo Bills, that makes the road to a Super Bowl easier.

If this season doesn't excite you, if you've become so jaded you couldn't possibly see a scenario now where Mahomes makes his stake as one of the greatest ever, then have living in that world, I guess.
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Old 01-21-2019, 07:12 PM   #53
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If at the start of the year you would have told me that we won the west and we were taking the Pats to overtime I would take that. This one was a bad one but the chiefs have arrived as a force in the AFC.
If you’d told me at the beginning of the season Bob Mutton was going to finish 31st again in total defense, and wreck Mahomes’ 50TD season, I’d have been really angry
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:15 PM   #54
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If Mahomes is truly to be a hall of fame, once in a generation qb in terms of winning Super Bowls, he needed to win it tonight. It would have been the perfect story. The 1st full season of Mahomes and he comes in, wins MVP and dethrones Brady who is the GOAT in many peoples eyes, and after losing to them earlier in the season would have made for a perfect story.

Look at A-rod, 1 Super Bowl to his name. Bree’s looks like he will only achieve 1 super bowl. Marino has a total of 0 Super Bowls.

My point is, games like tonight is what separates Brady from other quarterbacks. If we win tonight it would have been a passing of the torch. I am not saying we never win a super bowl with Mahomes because it should happen with how damn good he is. But tonight made me rethink the idea that he could ever win us 4-5 Super Bowls like Brady has done for New England, once his career is done. Mahomes could very well end up like another Brees, Rodgers, or Marino situation, especially with our team being as stacked as it is now. We have a lot of players yet to be paid the big $$, Mahomes and hill come to mind
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:56 PM   #55
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On paper we had the better team tonight...

We had the better quarterback imo.

Maybe that means we blame the coaches etc, but my point stands and I will stick by it, that I truly felt that Mahomes would win us 5 Super Bowls once his career was over... and now I lean towards Mahomes May end his career like brees or manning or Marino etc. amazing qb, but not able to consistently when like a GOAT such as Brady.

If Brady wins this super bowl in 2 weeks, he will have 6 rings. Meaning if any player is to surpass that accomplishment, particularly a quarterback. They will have needed to win a super bowl every other year for 12 years, which is unreal to even write...

I am just saying, if Mahomes was a player that is going to bring home 4+ Super Bowls, tonight shoulda been a win because of him, and him alone. Our 1st half was also atrocious as all hell, 0 points? That cannot happen in the AFC championship game when our offense was the best in the nfl.

You can disagree with my opinion etc, but obviously what I am writing isn’t fact, but it’s still my opinion.

Edit: and don’t twist what I am saying, I would still pick Mahomes over any qb in the nfl to lead us
It's a team game. Brady has been blessed with Belichick's defense and game management. Brady was a game manager for their first 2 Super Bowls, where the defense unquestionably was their biggest strength. He fumbled in the damn snow against the Raiders to lose the game and the refs bailed him out. He threw a pick last night to lose the game and Dee Ford bailed him out. Brady is great, but he is also one LUCKY son of a bitch.
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It's a team game. Brady has been blessed with Belichick's defense and game management. Brady was a game manager for their first 2 Super Bowls, where the defense unquestionably was their biggest strength. He fumbled in the damn snow against the Raiders to lose the game and the refs bailed him out. He threw a pick last night to lose the game and Dee Ford bailed him out. Brady is great, but he is also one LUCKY son of a bitch.
I'm really not going to go there. New England has had some mediocre defenses over the past decade, and some really really mediocre supporting talent on offense. Luckiness is just a cherry on the top at some times.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:12 PM   #57
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It's a team game. Brady has been blessed with Belichick's defense and game management. Brady was a game manager for their first 2 Super Bowls, where the defense unquestionably was their biggest strength. He fumbled in the damn snow against the Raiders to lose the game and the refs bailed him out. He threw a pick last night to lose the game and Dee Ford bailed him out. Brady is great, but he is also one LUCKY son of a bitch.
I agree you can't beat luck, unless it's Andrew Luck.
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