*** Official 2019 Kansas City Royals Repository ***

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Get the offseason thread out of here. It's on!

Opening day roster:

Catchers (2): Cam Gallagher, Martin Maldonado

Infielders (7): Hunter Dozier, Lucas Duda, Whit Merrifield, Adalberto Mondesi, Ryan O’Hearn, Chris Owings, Frank Schwindel

Outfielders (4): Alex Gordon, Terrance Gore, Billy Hamilton, Jorge Soler

Starting pitchers (3): Jakob Junis, Brad Keller, Jorge Lopez

Relief pitchers (9): Scott Barlow, Brad Boxberger, Jake Diekman, Chris Ellis, Tim Hill, Ian Kennedy, Kevin McCarthy, Wily Peralta, Kyle Zimmer

Injured list: Danny Duffy, Brian Flynn, Jesse Hahn, Salvador Perez

Suspended: Eric Skoglund

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Just had a conversation with a source I trust with 100% confidence. Sounds like the the Royals had agreed to trade Ian Kennedy to Atlanta for Joey Wentz. Wentz apparently may have even known about it. Glass refused to eat the money necessary on Kennedy’s contract. So that sucks.

https://twitter.com/RoyalsFarm/statu...038931968?s=19

Scary if true. You'd think a businessman would understand the concept of sunk cost.

[Mecca]

It's also a sunk cost though, if you can gain something of value in return isn't that the smarter thing to do?

[Chiefspants]

Eh, “Eat the money” is vague. That could mean the Royals shoulder 5m a year or the whole of Kennedy’s contract. More context is needed before I’ll form a strong opinion one way or the other.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's also a sunk cost though, if you can gain something of value in return isn't that the smarter thing to do?

That's just it...gaining a high percentage of saves instead of blown saves for Keller, Junis, et-al IS of value. Not sure why that's not being acknowledged. I hate the Kennedy contract, but we're actually getting some value out of it right now, even if it's still over-priced. I'm ecstatic we're getting ANY return from Kennedy...especially as a lock-down closer.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

That's just it...gaining a high percentage of saves instead of blown saves for Keller, Junis, et-al IS of value. Not sure why that's not being acknowledged. I hate the Kennedy contract, but we're actually getting some value out of it right now, even if it's still over-priced. I'm ecstatic we're getting ANY return from Kennedy...especially as a lock-down closer.

He has 1 more year under contract so what purpose is there for the Royals to have a "lock-down closer?"

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by jd1020

He has 1 more year under contract so what purpose is there for the Royals to have a "lock-down closer?"

To close games? Not sure if you're serious? Does it have to be more than one year to serve a purpose when likely, you'll need at least next year to figure out the next group of back-end bullpen arms?

[Mecca]

Uh the Royals winning right now means nothing, a good closer on a shitty team has next to no value. His best value is being traded for something of use in the future.

Matter of fact it's better if the Royals lose games.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

To close games? Not sure if you're serious?

The Royals are 43-76, bud. I'm 100% serious. Find me a reason a team that bad needs to hold onto a closer who is 34 years old and only under contract for the next 1.33 seasons. Kennedy finally pitching well enough that other teams would actually trade something for him and the smart decision is to keep him?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The Royals are 43-76, bud. I'm 100% serious. Find me a reason a team that bad needs to hold onto a closer who is 34 years old and only under contract for the next 1.33 seasons. Kennedy finally pitching well enough that other teams would actually trade something for him and the smart decision is to keep him?

He's literally one of those guys that thinks that winning 7 more games because the closer didn't blow it "has value". When the reality is, it doesn't, the teams that tanked on purpose to win proved that.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by jd1020

The Royals are 43-76, bud. I'm 100% serious. Find me a reason a team that bad needs to hold onto a closer who is 34 years old and only under contract for the next 1.33 seasons. Kennedy finally pitching well enough that other teams would actually trade something for him and the smart decision is to keep him?

Think what you want "bud". And Mecca is conflating the idea of winning 7 more games with the idea of being a reliable closer for young starters. I could care less if they win 7 more games or lose 7 more games. I want Keller to have someone closing for him that is reliable. Kennedy has shown he's reliable, at least when the rest of the bullpen is mostly a dumpster. If they figure out one or two reliable arms at the back end to add to Kennedy, the team looks vastly different. If they don't, Kennedy will likely net you something similar that you were offered this year at next year's trade deadline.

Now...if they get someone to take the contract in its entirety and give us a nice return, then great. Not likely to happen. Apparently, Glass/DM are just as happy to have Kennedy back another year and NOT eat the contract. Again...not your money. You act like whatever return we get for Kennedy will take us to the promised land...or that the freed money will be enough to rebuild our bullpen...or that we're going to tank BETTER than we're tanking already if we just unload Kennedy. None of those things are true. So what they're doing is perfectly fine.

[duncan_idaho]

If it’s true Glass refused to eat money on Kennedy at the deadline this year, then it’s absolutely stupid and indefensibly. I don’t care how big the “eat” was. Even the whole 24 million still owed to Kennedy wasn’t too much to land a fringe top 100 prospect like Joey Wentz.

There’s no value in keeping Kennedy and losing 95 instead of 100 games in 2020.

It’s a misunderstanding of sunk cost so bad, it makes me wonder if Tommy Boy (Dan Glass) made that call without talking to his dad.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If it’s true Glass refused to eat money on Kennedy at the deadline this year, then it’s absolutely stupid and indefensibly. I don’t care how big the “eat” was. Even the whole 24 million still owed to Kennedy wasn’t too much to land a fringe top 100 prospect like Joey Wentz.

There’s no value in keeping Kennedy and losing 95 instead of 100 games in 2020.

It’s a misunderstanding of sunk cost so bad, it makes me wonder if Tommy Boy (Dan Glass) made that call without talking to his dad.

You shall now feel the wrath of dallaschieffan.

[Prison Bitch]

IDK, this doesn’t bother me much. Kennedy can provide MLB value next year. I don’t know what the ask was but If it’s to eat all 20M I don’t do that either

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

IDK, this doesn’t bother me much. Kennedy can provide MLB value next year. I don’t know what the ask was but If it’s to eat all 20M I don’t do that either

Paying that $20M either way and for what?

The Royals only risk getting nothing for him because even if he doesn't shit himself between now and the next trade deadline you probably arent getting a better offer than what they were rumored to have on the table and all because they didn't want to spend money they have already spent.

[Chiefspants]

We still have the ability to deal Ian. I'll give it a year and a half before feeling pissed or not. A lot of people were PISSED that Greinke rejected the Nats deal - but the Brewers deal ended up working out quite well for us all the same.