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Old 01-23-2011, 11:58 AM  
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Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

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Old 07-15-2014, 10:23 AM   #6781
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There are only a couple of states (like California, suprise) that register guns by serial. In all states you have to pass a background check, but it only records whether you are attempting to purchase a handgun or a long gun, and that information is supposedly destroyed after your request is accepted or denied.
IIRC, None of that information is destroyed, and every time an FFL dealer goes out of business, the ATF keeps all of their 4473s. The law allows dealers to destroy 4473s over 20 years old, but even so, I believe dealers still keep this information in their books. When a dealer quits the business, the ATF keeps the books and all existing 4473s.

Maybe a licensed dealer will chime in as this is just my best understanding.

Either way, NSA probably has it all anyway.. Instant background check is over the phone lines, so I am sure NSA has a complete database of every gun transfer in the last 20 years.
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:01 AM   #6782
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IIRC, None of that information is destroyed, and every time an FFL dealer goes out of business, the ATF keeps all of their 4473s. The law allows dealers to destroy 4473s over 20 years old, but even so, I believe dealers still keep this information in their books. When a dealer quits the business, the ATF keeps the books and all existing 4473s.

Maybe a licensed dealer will chime in as this is just my best understanding.

Either way, NSA probably has it all anyway.. Instant background check is over the phone lines, so I am sure NSA has a complete database of every gun transfer in the last 20 years.
Yeah, there's not a doubt in my mind that the gubment has all those records.
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:27 AM   #6783
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I hope anybody that wanted a Russian made AK (Saiga/VEPR) already bought one. Since Obama banned their importation a couple days ago, almost all vendors are sold out, or have raised prices quite a bit.

Makes me think that there's gonna be a run on AK's from Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Yugoslavia(Serbia), etc.

Maybe he'll ban imported ammo, too.
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:40 AM   #6784
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I hope anybody that wanted a Russian made AK (Saiga/VEPR) already bought one. Since Obama banned their importation a couple days ago, almost all vendors are sold out, or have raised prices quite a bit.

Makes me think that there's gonna be a run on AK's from Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Yugoslavia(Serbia), etc.

Maybe he'll ban imported ammo, too.
I'm sure he will. You know he wants to do it anyway, and now he has an excuse.
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:45 AM   #6785
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I hope anybody that wanted a Russian made AK (Saiga/VEPR) already bought one. Since Obama banned their importation a couple days ago, almost all vendors are sold out, or have raised prices quite a bit.

Makes me think that there's gonna be a run on AK's from Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Yugoslavia(Serbia), etc.

Maybe he'll ban imported ammo, too.
you got a link verifying that Obama has done this?
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:49 AM   #6786
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5 most dangerous guns in America according to Rolling Stone magazine. See if you can guess before looking. Hint: this list is ridiculous.

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Old 07-18-2014, 09:21 AM   #6787
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you got a link verifying that Obama has done this?
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:23 AM   #6788
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5 most dangerous guns in America according to Rolling Stone magazine. See if you can guess before looking. Hint: this list is ridiculous.

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Wow. I was thinking it would list things like "pistol grips" and "semi-automatic", but it even more moranic that that.
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I'm considering getting some more 556 but I'm trying to decide between m-193 55gr and m-855 62gr. Which would you guys suggest for a 1x7 barrel? (same price)
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:44 AM   #6790
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I just held my Saiga over my head and yelled 'Wolverines!' a few times. It's surprisingly invigorating, and I'm sure causes Dear Leader a ton of butt-hurt. Buy my Saiga for $2200 (silver/gold bars accepted) and try it for yourself!
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I just held my Saiga over my head and yelled 'Wolverines!' a few times. It's surprisingly invigorating, and I'm sure causes Dear Leader a ton of butt-hurt. Buy my Saiga for $2200 (silver/gold bars accepted) and try it for yourself!
You might want to stock up on some more 7.62x39 surplus though.
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Ammo stockpile was taken care of before Dear Leader got elected. I just don't shoot up all I own these days. Which is kind of a bummer, but elections have consequences.
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you got a link verifying that Obama has done this?

I don't have a link at the moment, since I'm posting on my cell phone.

But from my understanding, the banning of Russian AK's is part of Obama's sanctions against Putin.

I think its posted on treasury.gov. You should be able to see all the Russian companies and individuals the US can't do business with.
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I don't have a link at the moment, since I'm posting on my cell phone.

But from my understanding, the banning of Russian AK's is part of Obama's sanctions against Putin.

I think its posted on treasury.gov. You should be able to see all the Russian companies and individuals the US can't do business with.
I read this as well. who does this guy think he is?
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