Chiefs Cowboys "covet" free agent CB Brandon Carr - Page 5

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-26-2012, 01:58 PM

According to Pro Football Weekly, the Cowboys "covet" free agent CB Brandon Carr and are expected to "go all in for him" when the market opens.
Carr is a big, physical corner with experience in both man and zone schemes, and he'd be a sizable upgrade on Terence Newman at left cornerback. The Cowboys can release Newman after March 13 and "designate" him a post-June 1 cut, saving over $6 million in cap space. Carr will command a pretty penny, but the secondary was Dallas' most glaring weakness for much of last season. Related: Cowboys
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4893/brandon-carr

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-26-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Routt with crennel and Emmitt Thomas will get better.

Dude. He's 29. He's reached his ceiling. That doesn't mean I think he sucks.

milkman · 02-26-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Dude. He's 29. He's reached his ceiling. That doesn't mean I think he sucks.

I don't that's necessarily true.

Good coaching can bring out more in players, even at this stage, than they've shown before, and ET is one of the best in the business.

**notorious** · 02-26-2012, 03:35 PM

Tag him and bag h....err trade him.

Simplicity · 02-26-2012, 03:36 PM

Peyton Manning.

tredadda · 02-26-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Wonder what JJ would give in the way of draft picks for Carr?

1. The franchise amount if we franchise tag Carr

2. Nothing. As he will be available for free in FA

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-26-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't that's necessarily true.

Good coaching can bring out more in players, even at this stage, than they've shown before, and ET is one of the best in the business.

But Flowers has reached his?

Simplicity · 02-26-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

But Flowers has reached his?

What are you trying to question?

**007** · 02-26-2012, 03:57 PM

Welp, he's gone.

tredadda · 02-26-2012, 04:00 PM

The smart move is to sign Bowe as his value on the market is less in comparison to Carr. With us having Routt, Carr is more expendable for us, but of more value to other teams like the Cowboys. We could try a sign and trade with Dallas though if that is possible. I would then trade Carr to Dallas (maybe a first this year and second next year). Then give Stl our high 1st and Dallas's high 1st. Then give them our second this year and next along with our 2013 1st and Dallas's 2013 2nd for the #2 pick. STL cleans up with two firsts this year (both in top 15), two 2nds this year and two 1sts and 2nds next year as well. We get the #2 pick this year and then our draft from round 3 on. Then we get rounds 2 on next year, so we lose very few picks.

**007** · 02-26-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

The smart move is to sign Bowe as his value on the market is less in comparison to Carr. With us having Routt, Carr is more expendable for us, but of more value to other teams like the Cowboys. We could try a sign and trade with Dallas though if that is possible. I would then trade Carr to Dallas (maybe a first this year and second next year). Then give Stl our high 1st and Dallas's high 1st. Then give them our second this year and next along with our 2013 1st and Dallas's 2013 2nd for the #2 pick. STL cleans up with two firsts this year (both in top 15), two 2nds this year and two 1sts and 2nds next year as well. We get the #2 pick this year and then our draft from round 3 on. Then we get rounds 2 on next year, so we lose very few picks.

Tell me again why Carr would agree to that.

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-26-2012, 04:03 PM

He'd be a 2 time Pro Bowler already with a Star on his helmet.

Mr. Laz · 02-26-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Tell me again why Carr would agree to that.

I think he means Tag and Trade

Carr really wouldn't have a choice

**007** · 02-26-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I think he means Tag and Trade

Carr really wouldn't have a choice

I figured that is probably what he meant but I don't believe the chiefs are going to tag him.

tredadda · 02-26-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Tell me again why Carr would agree to that.

That is why I said if it is possible. I am throwing ideas out there that allow us to trade up, without trading the farm for it.

Mr. Laz · 02-26-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I figured that is probably what he meant but I don't believe the chiefs are going to tag him.

maybe they won't ... dunno

but with all the WR's on the market they just might

Tag Carr and let Bowe walk

We then have a rather large pool of WR's to look at in FA. Maybe Bowe will even come back if he doesn't get the Larry Fitzgerald money he's apparently looking for.

The tag is about getting draft picks back for a guy who might leave imo.

a top CB is worth more in FA this year and will get us more in return.

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tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $1945053	The smart move is to sign Bowe as his value on the market is less in comparison to Carr. With us having Routt, Carr is more expendable for us, but of more value to other teams like the Cowboys. We could try a sign and trade with Dallas though if that is possible. I would then trade Carr to Dallas (maybe a first this year and second next year). Then give Stl our high 1st and Dallas's high 1st. Then give them our second this year and next along with our 2013 1st and Dallas's 2013 2nd for the #2 pick. STL cleans up with two firsts this year (both in top 15), two 2nds this year and two 1sts and 2nds next year as well. We get the #2 pick this year and then our draft from round 3 on. Then we get rounds 2 on next year, so we lose very few picks.
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