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Old 01-10-2019, 12:18 PM  
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Things that Democrats have funded that cost more than a border wall.

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Below are some examples of wasteful federal spending projects that individually cost more than the proposed border wall (data courtesy of Citizens Against Government Waste):

“Rural Utility Service.” This program costs taxpayers $8.2 billion/year and has no actual purpose after its original intent — bringing electricity to rural communities — was long ago achieved. It’s now being used to bring broadband access to small communities (usually with populations of less than 20,000). However there’s no indication the “beneficiaries” of this expensive government agency actually appreciate the program, and the majority of its projects are not completed on time or within budget.


Sugar Subsidies. America, as Democrats frequently intone, faces a health crisis. What they don’t tell us is that it’s largely of their own making, as Congress subsidizes the production of unhealthy foods like sugar and high-fructose corn syrup. Eliminating sugar subsidies alone would save $6 billion, enough to fund the border wall; it would also have the added benefit of helping curb the nation’s obesity epidemic.


Community Development Grants. These grants were created in the 70s to revitalize failing American cities. The program has almost always been plagued with dysfunction, with grants going to wealthy communities and other recipients failing to produce “accountability and results.” Citizens Against Government Waste reports that even President Obama called for reining in the program. It’s elimination would save $15 billion over 5 years.


The United Nations. As the United Nation’s largest contributor, the U.S. in 2016 donated $10 billion to the U.N. As CAGW notes, reducing these contributions just 25 percent would create a savings of $12.5 billion over 10 years. Of the money Congress appropriates for the United Nations, $5 million taxpayer dollars are itemized for abortions in foreign countries.

Amtrak. Congress could sell Amtrak to the private sector where it would almost certainly be operated more efficiently, but instead it’s showered in billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies. Over the next five years, these subsidies will cost $9.7 billion.

Unused Real Estate. Congress appropriates money to maintain federal real estate that’s not actually being used. Per CAGW, an October 31, 2017, CRS report found that, “In FY2016, federal agencies owned 3,120 buildings that were vacant (unutilized), and another 7,859 that were partially empty (underutilized).” Current laws require the government to undergo a series of steps before considering a sale of these buildings. Were selling this unused property prioritized, the 5-year savings are estimated at $15 billion. Simply maintaining the unused buildings annually costs $1.7 billion.

Foreign Aid. American taxpayers currently spend more than $50 billion a year helping develop foreign countries. Many of the recipients are not known for being America’s closest allies — such as Egypt, South Sudan, Uganda, South Africa, Russia, the Congo, Sudan, and Zambia — which raises the question of what Americans are receiving in exchange for all of this aid. Cutting these donations back just 10 percent would be enough to fund the wall.

Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. The Government Accountability Office estimates taxpayers are spending more than $137 billion annually on “payment errors,” which covers all manner of waste, fraud, and abuse within Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The feds could implement the same kind of fraud protections credit card companies used to ensure against abuse, but don’t. In fact, Congress has gone in the opposite direction, winding down the program intended to police fraud within Medicare, the so-called Recovery Audit Contractor. In other words, Congress is knowingly funding tens of billions of dollars of fraud annually.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:22 PM   #2
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We are still waiting for them to share their “border security” plan that’s also moral. Should be any month now.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:25 PM   #3
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Man, I’m all for axing sugar subsidies.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:27 PM   #4
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Wonder if Chuck thinks sugar subsidies are too expensive? Since the Democrats are now about fiscal restraint the last couple weeks.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:43 PM   #5
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Yeah, it sucked when Schumer shut down the government for a month just to get his sugar subsidies passed.
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I’m confident good will come from this. Dems will introduce their moral border security plan (hopefully tossing Obama’s kid-cages into the dumpster). And Americans will applaud.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:58 PM   #7
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Wonder if Chuck thinks sugar subsidies are too expensive? Since the Democrats are now about fiscal restraint the last couple weeks.


Ain't that the truth!!

Democrat/ The fiscally responsible party on all American southern border walls. (We can't even spell fiscul when associated with any other topic. )
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:12 PM   #8
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Wow, that is a heck of a list. Sugar clearly is the devil.


That Utility service thing may explain a project that has been going on here at the lake for a couple years.

Burying some orange rolled up pipe looking stuff in the rock ditches. Sure seems to be taking a long time and they don't work much. They have a heck of a lot of equipment sitting most of the time. I think it may be fiber optics.
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Conservatives have whataboutism down to an art.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:37 PM   #10
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Conservatives have whataboutism down to an art.
The nice thing about being on the left, is not having to adhere to tricky things like consistency and guiding principles.
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The nice thing about being on the left, is not having to adhere to tricky things like consistency and guiding principles.
As long as you adhere to the libtard "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy you'll be fine.
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This. If conservatives do one thing, it's adhere to tricky things like consistency and guiding principles!
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The nice thing about being on the left, is not having to adhere to tricky things like consistency and guiding principles.
I used to think free trade was a guiding principle of conservatism until Trump threw it in the trash. If you guys can flip flop on that then you will flip flop on anything.
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I used to think free trade was a guiding principle of conservatism until Trump threw it in the trash. If you guys can flip flop on that then you will flip flop on anything.
So now you come in with the Whataboutism. Apparently conservatives aren't the only people schooled in this art.

Trump has stated he wants free trade and that's his goal. He's using tariffs to leverage better more free trade deals.

Do you actually think the old NAFTA agreement was free trade??? Only in name.
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