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Old 01-06-2022, 03:19 PM  
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NFL is Rigged: Week 18 edition

The CP consensus is that the NFL is rigged. Welp, as such, I think it’d be great to discuss this week’s script.

The NFL is rigged, so this should be easy. As easy as predicting a WWE In-Ring interview being rudely interrupted by a rival with a steel chair.

Call your shot, what kind of week 18 shenanigans is the NFL up to?

Las Vegas vs L.A: Which new stadium does the NFL prefer? TWO teams in L.A make the playoffs?

Will the NFL write in a tie game sending BOTH to the playoffs?

Will they sneak the Steelers in for one last hoorah for Ruthlessraper?

Or will they write in Lamar Jackson because he generates ratings?

Will they give the most prestigious player (Mahomes) the #1 seed, or do they want to see the Chiefs in the WC round for extra ratings?

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Old 01-11-2022, 05:03 PM   #616
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That was an incredible drive, fun to watch.
Oh, for sure. One of the best games I've ever seen.

The Chargers have themselves to blame for that loss. Dumb 4th down decision and then the timeout in OT.
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Oh, for sure. One of the best games I've ever seen.

The Chargers have themselves to blame for that loss. Dumb 4th down decision and then the timeout in OT.

NFLN is replaying it tonight at 7pm.


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I thought this was a thread just to have a fun exercise to try and call what you thought the narrative would have been if the NFL were fixing games. Boy was I under the wrong impression.

Now it's witchcraft.

Next will be an explanation straight from an episode of Ancient Aliens explaining how there are signs from 3200 BC that extraterrestrials would fix games nearly 5000 years later.

This is ridiculous.

If the NFL is fixing games, you would think it would assuredly be to maximize profit.

Most of the profits for the NFL are in pre-negotiated TV contracts, so that seems moot. Conspiracy theorists seem to think that if you give viewers a narrative they expect, they are more likely to continue viewing. I don't know if that works in sports. I certainly don't appreciate watching the same teams in the playoffs year after year except for my team. I think most watchers would feel the same way. The driver here would then be for the NFL to continually put only the biggest markets in the playoffs every year. That doesn't happen with regularity and certainly not with the consistency that would lead me to claim rigging.

Next up would be merchandising and licensing. Obviously, bigger market teams winning helps drive that up some but I don't know if the revenue bump is big enough for the NFL to risk fixing games for it, especially considering its only 10% of overall revenues.

Ticket sales and concessions are an even smaller slice of the revenue pie, so I don't know that there would be any reason there. Conspiracy theorists still point to this as a big reason to fix games. They claim they want to sell as many tickets as possible to maximize these revenues. What NFL stadium doesn't sell out for a playoff game? Seriously delusional.

The other part of the argument here is related to creating false rivalries to maximize ticket sales and overall national viewing interest. What? For real? So, for instance, the Chiefs and Bills don't have a natural rivalry so let's create one in order to maximize interest in the game. That seems relatively far-fetched. The NFL is going to fix select games in order to drive two particular teams into having a rivalry? I just can't wrap my head around this one. That means both teams would at least already have to be good enough for it to matter, which means playoff quality to begin with. Surely this narrative cannot be applicable to the Lions and Jaguars squaring off. And so, it makes no sense.

The final argument I found is that the NFL purposefully fixes only high-stakes matchups (the AFC/NFC Championships and the Super Bowl, primarily) to ensure that there is a specific, desired outcome for the Super Bowl that is beneficial to profits. Well, most Super Bowls are blowouts, so that largely breaks the fixing of the championship games to lead to a most competitive and profitable Super Bowl. Was KC v TB a better matchup than GB v BUF would have been? Doubtful. TB pulled off 4 upsets last year to win it all. They won 5v4, 5v2, 5v1, and 5v1 match-ups. Was that good for football? Did everyone want to see Tom Brady win it again?

So, I can't really pinpoint why the NFL would try to fix games for profit, and it doesn't seem a likely narrative. So, why would they fix games? Some think a specific ownership group gets all the calls their way. If that's the case, and the players recognize it, why don't more free agents go to these teams only and not split themselves across the league? Players want to win, deep down. It's not only about money. My answer is that I don't think the NFL fixes games.

I do, however, think that there are corrupt officials that do fix games for personal gains. I do suspect those gains are primarily related to the sports betting world and there is plenty of historical evidence to support this across all sports. I would not be surprised if some owners kicked in some cash, but I don't think it's rooted at the league level.

I think that officials being bribed and rewarded for fixing select games is much easier to justify, as it supports how sporadic the "fixed games" appear to be in terms of timing and matchup.
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I thought this was a thread just to have a fun exercise to try and call what you thought the narrative would have been if the NFL were fixing games. Boy was I under the wrong impression.

Now it's witchcraft.

Next will be an explanation straight from an episode of Ancient Aliens explaining how there are signs from 3200 BC that extraterrestrials would fix games nearly 5000 years later.

This is ridiculous.

If the NFL is fixing games, you would think it would assuredly be to maximize profit.

Most of the profits for the NFL are in pre-negotiated TV contracts, so that seems moot. Conspiracy theorists seem to think that if you give viewers a narrative they expect, they are more likely to continue viewing. I don't know if that works in sports. I certainly don't appreciate watching the same teams in the playoffs year after year except for my team. I think most watchers would feel the same way. The driver here would then be for the NFL to continually put only the biggest markets in the playoffs every year. That doesn't happen with regularity and certainly not with the consistency that would lead me to claim rigging.

Next up would be merchandising and licensing. Obviously, bigger market teams winning helps drive that up some but I don't know if the revenue bump is big enough for the NFL to risk fixing games for it, especially considering its only 10% of overall revenues.

Ticket sales and concessions are an even smaller slice of the revenue pie, so I don't know that there would be any reason there. Conspiracy theorists still point to this as a big reason to fix games. They claim they want to sell as many tickets as possible to maximize these revenues. What NFL stadium doesn't sell out for a playoff game? Seriously delusional.

The other part of the argument here is related to creating false rivalries to maximize ticket sales and overall national viewing interest. What? For real? So, for instance, the Chiefs and Bills don't have a natural rivalry so let's create one in order to maximize interest in the game. That seems relatively far-fetched. The NFL is going to fix select games in order to drive two particular teams into having a rivalry? I just can't wrap my head around this one. That means both teams would at least already have to be good enough for it to matter, which means playoff quality to begin with. Surely this narrative cannot be applicable to the Lions and Jaguars squaring off. And so, it makes no sense.

The final argument I found is that the NFL purposefully fixes only high-stakes matchups (the AFC/NFC Championships and the Super Bowl, primarily) to ensure that there is a specific, desired outcome for the Super Bowl that is beneficial to profits. Well, most Super Bowls are blowouts, so that largely breaks the fixing of the championship games to lead to a most competitive and profitable Super Bowl. Was KC v TB a better matchup than GB v BUF would have been? Doubtful. TB pulled off 4 upsets last year to win it all. They won 5v4, 5v2, 5v1, and 5v1 match-ups. Was that good for football? Did everyone want to see Tom Brady win it again?

So, I can't really pinpoint why the NFL would try to fix games for profit, and it doesn't seem a likely narrative. So, why would they fix games? Some think a specific ownership group gets all the calls their way. If that's the case, and the players recognize it, why don't more free agents go to these teams only and not split themselves across the league? Players want to win, deep down. It's not only about money. My answer is that I don't think the NFL fixes games.

I do, however, think that there are corrupt officials that do fix games for personal gains. I do suspect those gains are primarily related to the sports betting world and there is plenty of historical evidence to support this across all sports. I would not be surprised if some owners kicked in some cash, but I don't think it's rooted at the league level.

I think that officials being bribed and rewarded for fixing select games is much easier to justify, as it supports how sporadic the "fixed games" appear to be in terms of timing and matchup.
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Old 01-12-2022, 01:06 AM   #620
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I could have broken into 37 random, incoherent thoughts. Would you prefer it that way?

Here's the synopsis:
  1. The NFL, as a league, does not fix games.
  2. If game-fixing happens, it's a result of refs being bribed.

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I could have broken into 37 random, incoherent thoughts. Would you prefer it that way?

Here's the synopsis:
  1. The NFL, as a league, does not fix games.
  2. If game-fixing happens, it's a result of refs being bribed.

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Old 01-12-2022, 01:47 AM   #622
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I wonder if the mob goes to officials and tells them who needs to win ??? If I was the mob, I would.
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[*]If game-fixing happens, it's a result of refs being bribed.


Better?
Hopefully you're not serious with this ignorant bullshit?

The only "bribes" the refs take is via their ****ing paychecks. From the NFL.

These guys are doctors and attorneys. They're professionals.

They do what they're told.

"Refs being bribed"




You're not ever allowed to make fun of anything on this board again after that.

I mean, our of all the lame-brained, half-crocked, no-baked ideas...refs being bribed? In the NFL?

You DO realize the NFL has their own security FORCE that works hand in hand with the mother****ing FBI, right?

You think the NFL has refs going rogue like that?

You obviously haven't been paying attention. To anything. Terrible comprehension. Just stop posting. You lost with that post.
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I wonder if the mob goes to officials and tells them who needs to win ??? If I was the mob, I would.
The NFL was started by the mob so that people could have bets to place on Sundays.

That is irrefutable fact. Somewhat obfuscated, sure...but it's a fact.
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Then sign up next year and prove it. I'll bet you'll be broke by week 4.
**** off...you'll just steal my predictions. This isn't amateur hour...I specifically said I wasn't placing anymore bets because gambling is Blackwerk. I'm not watching the NFL anymore...at least with any true engagement....maybe fact finding.

My whole point on that one week experiment was meant as a warning...I literally shot a flare into everyone's face. I picked two games...that until the Colts/Jags last week...were the two biggest upsets of the year.

How did I do it? I'd like to hear your explanation...that I chose THAT week to show up...and those two games to make a point.

You really, really want to hate me...dont you. *chuckles*

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Thanks...

Your observations suck...
Much like your astute observations that the NFL is rigging the entire season.
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Hopefully you're not serious with this ignorant bullshit?

The only "bribes" the refs take is via their ****ing paychecks. From the NFL.

These guys are doctors and attorneys. They're professionals.

They do what they're told.

"Refs being bribed"




You're not ever allowed to make fun of anything on this board again after that.

I mean, our of all the lame-brained, half-crocked, no-baked ideas...refs being bribed? In the NFL?

You DO realize the NFL has their own security FORCE that works hand in hand with the mother****ing FBI, right?

You think the NFL has refs going rogue like that?

You obviously haven't been paying attention. To anything. Terrible comprehension. Just stop posting. You lost with that post.
What basis do you have to believe the NFL is rigging the seasons?

Is it the same hidden basis BlackOp has? The one he can't tell anyone about?

Every sport has had ref bribery... except the NFL. There's no possible way it happens in the NFL. That's what you're telling me? Hahahahaha. That's batshit crazy.

There is far less evidence the NFL is rigging anything compared to the occasional game appearing to be thrown by a ref crew. If you wholeheartedly believe that rigging is happening, I'd love to see it shown how and for whom it's happening.
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**** off...you'll just steal my predictions. This isn't amateur hour...I specifically said I wasn't placing anymore bets because gambling is Blackwerk. I'm not watching the NFL anymore...at least with any true engagement....maybe fact finding.

My whole point on that one week experiment was meant as a warning...I literally shot a flare into everyone's face. I picked two games...that until the Colts/Jags last week...were the two biggest upsets of the year.

How did I do it? I'd like to hear your explanation...that I chose THAT week to show up...and those two games to make a point.

You really, really want to hate me...dont you. *chuckles*
Hate you? No, you're high quality entertainment for me.

You know this isn't real gambling, right? No money exchanges hands, it's all for fun and bragging rights. I figured you'd want to jump in to prove to everyone that what you are preaching is the truth.

I'll even let you PM me your bets every week so no one will steal your predictions. Come on, join in on the fun!
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Yeah Dartgod, why wouldn't you want predictions like this, where a doubtful bettor simply tells you what might happen? Isn't that what betting is all about?

I'll join your forum and bet $10k that if the Steelers win, they'll play the Titans next week. I don't think it'll happen. Chiefs drop that game.... Big Ben advances in the playoffs and they play the Titans.

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Colts/Jags is the real ace card in seeding...I dont think even the string pullers are that brazen. Jags lost by 6 points in the first meeting..

Colts drop that game...and Steelers/Ravens could get in. Big Rapes final season...not like we haven't seen this kind of ****ery play out before. *cough* Manning being the 32nd ranked QB *cough*
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