Bengals offensive line

[dlphg9]

In weeks 1 through 8 Burrow was sacked 29 times. Since week 9 Burrow has only been sacked 17 times in 10 games. The only game during that time frame where he was sacked more than 2 times was the WC game against the Ravens, in which they sacked him 4 times.

Burrow gets the ball out the 2nd fasted in the league. Did he adjust to get the ball out faster to help the line or is the line just playing better. Burrow isn't a guy that is going to extend the play like a Mahomes, so he's not helping keep the sack numbers down like that.

So what is it? Better line play or Burrow is just so fast it's hard to get to him?

If it is because of his quick release, then would us jamming the shit out of the WR help the pass rushers and give them just a big more time? What is the key to getting to Burrow?

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by BWillie

The Bengals oline destroyed the Bills. With the 2 or 3 backup guys or not, they looked fine.

The Bills have zero pass rushers worth a damn outside of Von.

[crayzkirk]

IMO, the biggest disadvantage the Chiefs DL has against the Bengals OL is they don't have a dominant Edge Rusher (DE) while the opposite is true for the Bengals DL against the Chiefs OL. I don't know if it's scheme or player however many time the Chiefs DE go wide and are completely out of the play. Last week, on the long pass that was dropped by the Jags, both DE were so far out of the play that they could have been sitting down.

I don't believe the Chiefs have the necessary players to be able to pressure Burrow much and with the receiving corps they have, it's going to be a long day unless they can get a couple of turnovers.

Not sure what the issue is with the Chiefs OL however being one of the worst in the league on 3rd and short seems to indicate they guys aren't that powerful or the scheme is just bad.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

You mean bring three LBs to the party plus three S? Have we ever done that?

No, that's a 3-3-5

Heavy nickel is using a heavier safety as your NCB. It's essentially our 3-safety look and you'd presumably station Cook in the box as a hybrid Sam backer/NCB.

[DJay23]

All of these comparisons of Burrow to Brady reminds me that one of the reasons we wanted Spags was because he was known as a Brady frustrater. I seem to recall that pressure in his face was one of the big keys.

[emaw1979]

He gets rid of it super quick with their offense. A ton of quick dump off and short passes mixed in with the running game. They lull pass rushers to sleep, then he throws deep now and then and when the pass rush is expecting run or quick pass. With their weapons, you have to honor them deep.

The Chiefs have actually played them tough at times. The last game would have looked a lot better had Cheffers not ****ed the chiefs over with a few bad defensive flags.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No, that's a 3-3-5

Heavy nickel is using a heavier safety as your NCB. It's essentially our 3-safety look and you'd presumably station Cook in the box as a hybrid Sam backer/NCB.

Ok. Shit, maybe that’d work better. At least on 1st and 2nd down.

[scho63]

By pulling all your linemen towards the center, it makes it much easier to block and chip two rushing linemen and buy 1-2 extra seconds. While that seems insignificant, it's the difference between a completion and a sack.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No, that's a 3-3-5

Heavy nickel is using a heavier safety as your NCB. It's essentially our 3-safety look and you'd presumably station Cook in the box as a hybrid Sam backer/NCB.

Lots of CFB teams are using that now I don't like it the good offenses tear it apart

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Lots of CFB teams are using that now I don't like it the good offenses tear it apart

I'm not really much of a fan either. It's a 'tweener' front.

Though I wonder how similar it was to that Falcon shit they ran in DTs last year here where they had him playing a hybrid LB/DE where they'd try to move him around.

I'd guess they probably used some 3-3-6 there.

[poolboy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No, that's a 3-3-5

Heavy nickel is using a heavier safety as your NCB. It's essentially our 3-safety look and you'd presumably station Cook in the box as a hybrid Sam backer/NCB.

call it what you want...safeties and linebackers are getting moved around

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by poolboy

call it what you want...safeties and linebackers are getting moved around

No - it's a completely different alignment. Stop arguing and read.

A 3-3-5 is an odd front and we don't use our DEs as standup backers apart from occasionally widening them into a 9 and letting them rush from a 2-point stance. Nor do we run odd fronts. We do, however, heavily utilize heavy nickel formations that utilize four down lineman, 2 backers and 3 safeties.

A 3-3-5 isn't 'shifting safeties and linebackers.' It's changing the entire nature of your DL. Jones would line up as a zero technique (effectively guaranteeing a double if not TRIPLE team) and the DE's would align as 3-techniques, a position Clark doesn't have the functional strength to do well and Danna/Karlaftis don't have the length for. Dunlap is the only guy who might do well in a 3 technique but he has so little burst these days that you may as well have him 2 gapping.

Maybe consider shutting up and learning something. It would be a fundamental shift in our defensive philosophy. If you wanted to do some of it you might find some success with Jones at the 3 technique, Williams/Nnadi/Saunders at 0 and Dunlap at the other 3 with Clark playing OLB, but now you're just talking about shifting to a 3-4.

[poolboy]

nobodys arguing and nobodys shutting up . its a couple small tweaks to a couple guys on d...stop making it sound like rocket science

[MahomesIsTheMVP]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Here's what their O-Line plays like when they face the Chiefs:

LT - Anthony Munoz
LG - John Hannah
C - Jim Otto
RG - Will Shields
RT - Forrest Gregg

It sure seems that way.

We need the CEO of SackNation to go crazy in this game.

[RunKC]

Nate Taylor said he heard from a good source that the Bills team was just exhausted from everything that happened this year.

They also didn’t have Micah Hyde and Von Miller and Jordan Poyer was playing through a hard injury.

It’s not the same as our situation

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

The Bills have zero pass rushers worth a damn outside of Von.

Luckily we have that greek guy, who analytical services have graded as in the bottom 10% of all NFL starting DEs.