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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

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Old 06-01-2020, 05:04 PM   #34291
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Since finding out I needed to get tested I've assumed either I dodged the bullet or I am somebody who shows no symptoms, but suddenly I'm not doing too good.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:19 PM   #34292
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Since finding out I needed to get tested I've assumed either I dodged the bullet or I am somebody who shows no symptoms, but suddenly I'm not doing too good.
What's going on?
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:26 PM   #34293
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Since finding out I needed to get tested I've assumed either I dodged the bullet or I am somebody who shows no symptoms, but suddenly I'm not doing too good.
Dude, you not feeling good or what?
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:30 PM   #34294
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:43 PM   #34295
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUD_...ature=youtu.be

This doctor takes apart the recent study published in The Lancet. Now I know some people will just say this is one person, blah, blah. But that's not what I'm looking for here. I want the arrogant people who are so sure that Hydroxychloriquine will not work against COVID 19 to explain to me where he is wrong, where all of the people that signed a letter questioning the study got it wrong, etc. Now I admit that I am not educated in this area but this person sounds to me as though he is very educated with these things. This doctor says he no longer has faith in The Lancet due to this being published. Is he wrong? Why? Let's hear it.

And for those of you who say that you only trust science and want to learn and educate yourselves, will you watch this and learn some things? Or will you just ignore this and continue to be led by people who may not have your best interests in mind?
He starts by asking for something that is in the works--an RCT. The WHO, your boogeyman, is conducting a five-armed RCT right now called the SOLIDARITY Trial. The very trial that he's asking for just stopped recruitment in the hydroxychloroquine arm due to concerns over safety and efficacy--that is--they are stopping early because the results are so bad that it is likely not worth continuing.

With that said, observational trials are not "bad science" as he claims. That shows a complete misunderstanding of what science is. Observational trials have limitations, and those limitations are greater than one finds in an RCT. That's why we strive for RCTs. But in cases where we don't yet have the time, funding, or ability to initiate and compile the data for said RCTs, observational trials still have value, and several of them together, have greater value.

The errors in the Lancet study that were caught are an indication of the value of peer review. While it would be nice to have a perfect study, those of us that look at these often will tell you that there is no such thing, which is why they are looked over in such exacting detail given the consequences. Those errors are also comparatively minor and did not affect the underlying conclusions or hazard ratios in any meaningful fashion.

If you don't believe the Lancet study, then you are more than welcome to look at studies published in the New England Journal and JAMA, each of which had thousands of patients enrolled and found no benefit to hydroxychloroquine use.

Or, you can use Raoult's study with 22 people with mysterious attrition in six and no control group or Peak Prosperity.

By the way, here is your "source" talking about bad science:

https://www.peakprosperity.com/bombs...uci-connected/

A conspiracy theorist website claiming that Fauci could be connected to the creation of SARS-CoV-2 in a lab, urging its visitors to invest in gold. Taco John would be proud.

But yeah, we're the arrogant ones, not the guy who has no ****ing clue what he's talking about, tutting-tutting this bullshit.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:43 PM   #34296
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What's going on?
I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:44 PM   #34297
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I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.
What's it running? Have you had your test yet?
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:50 PM   #34298
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I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.
I know you were concerned about money earlier, so this isn't the most palatable, but it's worth getting checked out.

If you're febrile (over 100.4), you should make an appointment at urgent care. Describe your symptoms, your exposure, and they'll likely order a test for you.

I don't want to scare you, but there are people that are walking around normal whose oxygenation levels are at an unhealthy level. They call them healthy hypoxemics.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:52 PM   #34299
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I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.
You were tested already, correct?
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:53 PM   #34300
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I know you were concerned about money earlier, so this isn't the most palatable, but it's worth getting checked out.

If you're febrile (over 100.4), you should make an appointment at urgent care. Describe your symptoms, your exposure, and they'll likely order a test for you.

I don't want to scare you, but there are people that are walking around normal whose oxygenation levels are at an unhealthy level. They call them healthy hypoxemics.
Speaking of this, I finally found my pulse oximeter at work. It’s at home now in safe keeping for this COVID shit.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:56 PM   #34301
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I'm not having any trouble breathing or anything like that. However, I've had a headache all day that's getting continually worse. I didn't think anything of it because I get headaches sometimes. Then I checked my temperature and it's pretty ****ing high. I haven't ran a temperature to my knowledge in over 10 years.
Take a few Tylenol, get a good night's rest. If there are still problems in the morning, I can log back in as Ubeja and start posting to make your real life issues seem trivial.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:08 PM   #34304
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I know you were concerned about money earlier, so this isn't the most palatable, but it's worth getting checked out.

If you're febrile (over 100.4), you should make an appointment at urgent care. Describe your symptoms, your exposure, and they'll likely order a test for you.

I don't want to scare you, but there are people that are walking around normal whose oxygenation levels are at an unhealthy level. They call them healthy hypoxemics.
I went and got tested this morning. My other roommates who were exposed to this guy got tested as well. They said about three days until I'll get the results. I'm running 101.2 as of right now. If I start to have any other symptoms I may look into options but right now I'm just staying separated from anybody and staying hydrated.
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Old 06-01-2020, 06:12 PM   #34305
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