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Old 10-19-2020, 06:00 PM  
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What's up with Mecole Hardman?

Pringle was getting all the snaps down the stretch. Is he in the doghouse? (I'm only partially asking because I started him in fantasy thinking he'd get some looks with Watkins out)

Seems like he's regressed a lot this season, unfortunately...
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:12 PM   #76
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So we drafted a WR in the 2nd who will basically always be a backup as long as Tyreek is on the team even if the WR2 spot is open?

Cool I guess.
Are you ever happy?
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:19 PM   #77
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So we drafted a WR in the 2nd who will basically always be a backup as long as Tyreek is on the team even if the WR2 spot is open?

Cool I guess.
One, when they drafted him most people thought Hill was likely not going to play that year, or for a big part of it. Two, I’m guessing the role of Tyreek putting a special kind of pressure on a defense is an important part of our offense and we needed to ensure we could still do that if Tyreek wasn’t on the field.
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:19 PM   #78
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Are you ever happy?
I was happy we won the game but this is a thread about Hardman. I don't know how happy you could be with his development so far.

But just for you.... "Great game Hardman! You were sensational out there!"

Happy?
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:20 PM   #79
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So we drafted a WR in the 2nd who will basically always be a backup as long as Tyreek is on the team even if the WR2 spot is open?

Cool I guess.
Not picking at you in particular, just saying:

I said when we drafted Hardman it could take a couple (possibly three) seasons before he accumulates enough experience to actually be a starter. These are just the growing pains he's going through because he came into the league with just a couple seasons in college as a WR. What he's doing is normal for a guy like him. He'll be fine. Patience.
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:21 PM   #80
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One, when they drafted him most people thought Hill was likely not going to play that year, or for a big part of it. Two, I’m guessing the role of Tyreek putting a special kind of pressure on a defense is an important part of our offense and we needed to ensure we could still do that if Tyreek wasn’t on the field.
I fully understand why we drafted him. But after it was clear Hill would still be on the team, you'd have to think Hardman would take a more traditional WR2 develompent role right? Because even now, he still can't replace Hill if Hill goes out despite everyone saying he's Hills replacement. Hill runs every single route you can think of and then more. Hardman doesn't.
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Old 10-19-2020, 10:31 PM   #81
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While I question some of his ST decisions lately, I don't think that's why he's riding the pines. Today's game was run first, pass 2nd. Hardman is a speed guy, but when there's a monsoon going on, you need guys that can run sharp routes and lay a block on someone. Hardman isn't there yet.
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Old 10-19-2020, 11:45 PM   #82
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They ALWAYS have to have an enemy on the team. Bunch of miserable ****s.



Hardman has made plays when his name is called. That’s all I care about.
Hardman is fine as a wide receiver, but man, he has made some bad decisions on returning kick-offs this year.

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Old 10-20-2020, 02:13 AM   #83
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Both him and Tyreek look like they are playing through minor injuries.
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Old 10-20-2020, 02:17 AM   #84
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Old 10-20-2020, 02:22 AM   #85
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I was happy we won the game but this is a thread about Hardman. I don't know how happy you could be with his development so far.

But just for you.... "Great game Hardman! You were sensational out there!"

Happy?
I mean yes you're not wrong; he hasn't exactly blown my hair back this year; but lighten up a little.

Hardman's trying to fill a nonexistent role.

He'll never be tyreek, but that's the hand he was dealt and honestly I'm going to take small victories when they make themselves available.

We played like garbage for a good chunk of that game and ended with a W

I suppose we just have different views on what constitutes success
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:11 AM   #86
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Pringle is much more of a Sammy replacement. Hardman is more of a Hill replacement. That said, I haven't been happy with Hardman this year, especially on special teams. Quit costing us yards dumbass.
Would people stop with this Hardman is a Hill replacement crap? Hardman is not Hill and never will be. Just because they both are fast doesnt make Hardman Hill. Hardman is a one-trick pony while WR Hill can beat you in so many different ways.

That said I'm not just ready to give up on Hardman but it doesn't look like he will anything more than a speed guy who will beat you on deep routes.

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Old 10-20-2020, 06:13 AM   #87
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I fully understand why we drafted him. But after it was clear Hill would still be on the team, you'd have to think Hardman would take a more traditional WR2 develompent role right? Because even now, he still can't replace Hill if Hill goes out despite everyone saying he's Hills replacement. Hill runs every single route you can think of and then more. Hardman doesn't.
All WR's on this team have to learn everybody else's roles. Hardman can run every route Hill can, at least in theory, or he won't play because that's Andy's rule.

If Hill were to go down, we absolutely would see Hardman having a greater role.
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Would people stop with this Hardman is a Hill replacement crap? Hardman is not Hill and never will be. Just because they both are fast doesnt make Hardman Hill. Hardman is a one-trick pony while WR Hill can beat you in so many different ways.

That said I'm not just ready to give up on Hardman but it doesn't look like he will anything more than a speed guy who will beat you on deep routes.
NOBODY will ever be Hill. He's that special.

That being said, Hardman and Hill play the same position and role. They're the speed WR's on this team. If Hill were to go down with an injury, Hardman would have to step up. That's just the way it is, whether he's ready for that or not.
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NOBODY will ever be Hill. He's that special.

That being said, Hardman and Hill play the same position and role. They're the speed WR's on this team. If Hill were to go down with an injury, Hardman would have to step up. That's just the way it is, whether he's ready for that or not.
They play the same position but they definitely do not play the same role.

Hill's role is much bigger than Hardmans ever will be. Just stop w the comparisons Hardman's peak is probably a #2 on a team that doesn't have a lot of deep threat weapons.
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They play the same position but they definitely do not play the same role.

Hill's role is much bigger than Hardmans ever will be. Just stop w the comparisons Hardman's peak is probably a #2 on a team that doesn't have a lot of deep threat weapons.
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