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Sure-Oz · 04:50 PM

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/0...kaplan-of.html

Cubs Acquire Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin
By Tim Dierkes [July 8 at 5:25pm CST]

5:36pm: The Cubs' press release is out. The Cubs get Harden and Chad Gaudin for Gallagher, Murton, Patterson, and catching prospect Josh Donaldson. Jim Hendry did his best to counter the Brewers' acquisition of CC Sabathia. The A's get three MLB-ready players plus a solid offense-oriented catching prospect

Harden, 26, has been dominant in 13 starts for the A's this year. The injury-prone Harden is a tantalizing player; he's only topped 130 innings once but has a career ERA of 3.42. The latest concern: decreased velocity/dead arm in his last start. Harden has a $7MM club option for '09, which is highly likely to be exercised.

chiefs1111 · 07-08-2008, 04:57 PM

I wonder what move the Cards will make,Nl Central is getting crazy with pitching talent

**BigRedChief** · 07-08-2008, 04:58 PM

Frazod is going postal when he hears this.

Frazod · 07-08-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Frazod is going postal when he hears this.

I'd rather not piss away our future buying overhyped stars. We'll have Wainwright and Carpenter back soon for free.

Fairplay · 07-08-2008, 05:52 PM

Go Cubs!

I really hope this is their year.

Frazod · 07-08-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

Go Cubs!

I really hope this is their year.

Keep dreaming. All those expensive parts will make for one terrific crash when it call comes apart.

As usual.

SPATCH · 07-08-2008, 05:59 PM

And with that...

so goes the cardinals hopes for the playoffs... these are AL studs that will rape and pillage their way through NL lineups

Fairplay · 07-08-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Keep dreaming.

I like to call it fantasizing actually when it comes to the cubs.

Coach · 07-08-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Keep dreaming. All those expensive parts will make for one terrific crash when it call comes apart.

As usual.

I don't know. This Cubs team is pretty much loaded with the players that they have.

Lineup:
LF Soriano
RF Fukudome
1B Lee
3B Ramirez
C Soto
2B DeRosa
CF Edmonds/Johnson
SS Theriot

Bench:
Ward
Johnson/Edmonds
Fontenot
Blanco
Cedeno

Rotation:
Zambrano
Harden
Lilly
Dempster
Marquis

Bullpen:
Gaudin
Lieber
Wuertz
Marmol
Wood
Howry
Eyre

This team has alot of solid players in almost all positions, with a solid 1-3 rotation starters, and a very strong bullpen, especially at Marmol and Wood.

**Reaper16** · 07-08-2008, 05:00 PM

Cards will finish 3rd.

Sure-Oz · 07-08-2008, 05:03 PM

Gaudin is also a solid addition as well to their already solid pen. I think even Gaudin could start if needed for them.

Nice counter to Milwaukee's move

**The Bad Guy** · 07-08-2008, 05:06 PM

This is a huge deal. The Cubs didn't give up anything of value.

Harden in the NL is murder.

**BigRedChief** · 07-08-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This is a huge deal. The Cubs didn't give up anything of value.

Harden in the NL is murder.

Moneyball doesn't get owned. It does the ownage. See who got the better deal in a couple of years.

Remember how the A's got Harden? Mulder for Harden? Worked out great for us the first year. Not so well the rest of the way.

little jacob · 07-08-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Moneyball doesn't get owned. It does the ownage. See who got the better deal in a couple of years.

Remember how the A's got Harden? Mulder for Harden? Worked out great for us the first year. Not so well the rest of the way.

what about dan haren. that deal worked out "ok" for Arizona.

epitome1170 · 07-09-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by little jacob

what about dan haren. that deal worked out "ok" for Arizona.

It worked out MUCH BETTER though for the A's. I believe they have three everyday starters playing right now for Dan Haren.

As for the Harden trade, it is hard to think the Cubs will like this in the end. I just do not trust Moneyball anymore. I especially do not trust any pitchers coming from Oakland. Look at all of the stud pitchers that spent any significant amount of time there that was traded recently. Zito... turned to crap. Mulder... even bigger bust. Hudson... the best of the three, but definitely not the ace he was supposed to be. Oakland overworks their starters and then gets rid of them at high values. Then they break down and are never the same.

I can see the same thing with Harden. Rumors have it that Harden was already breaking down with a drop in velocity and the A's got rid of him so quickly because they were not certain if he would last until the end of the month and maintain his value. Time will tell.

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