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Sure-Oz · 04:50 PM

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/0...kaplan-of.html

Cubs Acquire Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin
By Tim Dierkes [July 8 at 5:25pm CST]

5:36pm: The Cubs' press release is out. The Cubs get Harden and Chad Gaudin for Gallagher, Murton, Patterson, and catching prospect Josh Donaldson. Jim Hendry did his best to counter the Brewers' acquisition of CC Sabathia. The A's get three MLB-ready players plus a solid offense-oriented catching prospect

Harden, 26, has been dominant in 13 starts for the A's this year. The injury-prone Harden is a tantalizing player; he's only topped 130 innings once but has a career ERA of 3.42. The latest concern: decreased velocity/dead arm in his last start. Harden has a $7MM club option for '09, which is highly likely to be exercised.

**DeezNutz** · 07-08-2008, 05:47 PM

Yeah, well the Royals are supposedly interested in Matt Holliday. That's right, Matt freakin Holliday.

**** you all and your teams that win.

Frazod · 07-08-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Frazod is going postal when he hears this.

I'd rather not piss away our future buying overhyped stars. We'll have Wainwright and Carpenter back soon for free.

Fairplay · 07-08-2008, 05:52 PM

Go Cubs!

I really hope this is their year.

Frazod · 07-08-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay

Go Cubs!

I really hope this is their year.

Keep dreaming. All those expensive parts will make for one terrific crash when it call comes apart.

As usual.

little jacob · 07-08-2008, 05:58 PM

i have no positive or negative for the cubs or cards really. i kind of hope milwaukee does it. they have done things the right way from a little guy perspective, loaded up on high quality prospects, good drafting. made a big aggressive move to try to take the next step.

good year for the have-nots with the brewers and the rays maybe poised to make a run. florida is in second place. arizona is in the lower end of the league in payroll and are in first, although their division is awful.

SPATCH · 07-08-2008, 05:59 PM

And with that...

so goes the cardinals hopes for the playoffs... these are AL studs that will rape and pillage their way through NL lineups

Fairplay · 07-08-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Keep dreaming.

I like to call it fantasizing actually when it comes to the cubs.

Frazod · 07-08-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

And with that...

so goes the cardinals hopes for the playoffs... these are AL studs that will rape and pillage their way through NL lineups

You sound just like every other fucking reerun I have to endure all day long, who is convinced that teams that haven't won shit in decades are suddenly world beaters because of the addition of one guy.

Coach · 07-08-2008, 06:07 PM

Keep in mind that Gaudin is also a very solid ball player. Would make a good long-man or a spot-starter for the Cubs.

SPATCH · 07-08-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

You sound just like every other fucking reerun I have to endure all day long, who is convinced that teams that haven't won shit in decades are suddenly world beaters because of the addition of one guy.

the cubs have been the class of the NL the entire year.. you're an idiot if you think you can rely on the curse of the billy goat, or whatever, to bail your asses out again this year..

this isn't the NL Central of the last few years where you could just suck the least and make the playoffs

Coach · 07-08-2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Keep dreaming. All those expensive parts will make for one terrific crash when it call comes apart.

As usual.

I don't know. This Cubs team is pretty much loaded with the players that they have.

Lineup:
LF Soriano
RF Fukudome
1B Lee
3B Ramirez
C Soto
2B DeRosa
CF Edmonds/Johnson
SS Theriot

Bench:
Ward
Johnson/Edmonds
Fontenot
Blanco
Cedeno

Rotation:
Zambrano
Harden
Lilly
Dempster
Marquis

Bullpen:
Gaudin
Lieber
Wuertz
Marmol
Wood
Howry
Eyre

This team has alot of solid players in almost all positions, with a solid 1-3 rotation starters, and a very strong bullpen, especially at Marmol and Wood.

eazyb81 · 07-08-2008, 06:13 PM

Wow, Cubs gave up a lot for a pitcher that can't stay healthy.

Coach · 07-08-2008, 06:15 PM

Also, Harden will be under the Cubs control after the end of this season, since the Cubs have a 2009 $7 million club option.

SPATCH · 07-08-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Wow, Cubs gave up a lot for a pitcher that can't stay healthy.

are you serious??

and don't underestimate the importance of gaudin in the deal.... the cubs are huge winners in this one imo

Ultra Peanut · 07-08-2008, 06:19 PM

That was fast.

I hate to lose Gallagher, I wish Murton nothing but the best and I'm glad he's in the league he's better-suited for, E-Pat never had a chance in Chicago, and Donaldson could be a really good player at some point. But Harden and Gaudin are awesome additions, and well worth the trade pieces.

God knows Beane isn't going to get snookered, but it looks like a win-win deal at this point.

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

One concern: Harden is already injury prone. The bad mojo over the years of Prior and Wood may end up killing Rich in some freak accident.

07-08-2008, 04:40 PM
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Join Date: Dec 2001 Casino cash: $3439383	Cubs acquire Rich Harden http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/0...kaplan-of.html Cubs Acquire Rich Harden and Chad Gaudin By Tim Dierkes [July 8 at 5:25pm CST] 5:36pm: The Cubs' press release is out. The Cubs get Harden and Chad Gaudin for Gallagher, Murton, Patterson, and catching prospect Josh Donaldson. Jim Hendry did his best to counter the Brewers' acquisition of CC Sabathia. The A's get three MLB-ready players plus a solid offense-oriented catching prospect Harden, 26, has been dominant in 13 starts for the A's this year. The injury-prone Harden is a tantalizing player; he's only topped 130 innings once but has a career ERA of 3.42. The latest concern: decreased velocity/dead arm in his last start. Harden has a $7MM club option for '09, which is highly likely to be exercised. Last edited by Sure-Oz; 07-08-2008 at 04:50 PM..
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