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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

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Old 06-29-2020, 10:51 PM   #37021
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It is what it is. If younger kids were as vulnerable there would not be all the youth sports and schools starting back up soon. Things would look much different. 80 year olds dying abd 8 year olds dying doesn't have the same impact.
Eh, it's just a bunch of WW2 vets and their wives. Who cares?
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:52 PM   #37022
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You come here everyday to argue about something you know little about , what is your endgame.
whatever, bro. I don't know what tomorrow holds any more than the next person. If I wake up I go out and take on the day as most people do. I don't overly concern myself with things that are not in my control.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:54 PM   #37023
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whatever, bro. I don't know what tomorrow holds any more than the next person. If I wake up I go out and take on the day as most people do. I don't overly concern myself with things that are not in my control.
You spend a lot of time in here for someone not concerned about this.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:54 PM   #37024
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Eh, it's just a bunch of WW2 vets and their wives. Who cares?
That was a terrible take to his argument. Also why do you think they are all WW2 vets and\or the Wives of vets? Or maybe you don't care about them unless they are such????
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:56 PM   #37025
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That was a terrible take to his argument. Also why do you think they are all WW2 vets and\or the Wives of vets? Or maybe you don't care about them unless they are such????
I am not that concerned about COVID , people like you scare me a lot more .
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You spend a lot of time in here for someone not concerned about this.
You spend a lot of time in here with pointless posts.
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I am not that concerned about COVID , people like you scare me a lot more .
Uh huh....riiiiiiiggggghhhhhhttttt
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Old 06-29-2020, 11:00 PM   #37028
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That was a terrible take to his argument. Also why do you think they are all WW2 vets and\or the Wives of vets? Or maybe you don't care about them unless they are such????
That's literally the generation we're talking about being hit hardest by this. They may not all be vets, but they're all in the generation who DID come together as a country and make huge sacrifices for the greater good.

But **** 'em. They're old.
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Uh huh....riiiiiiiggggghhhhhhttttt
Stupid and stubborn are the scariest people on earth,
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That's literally the generation we're talking about being hit hardest by this. They may not all be vets, but they're all in the generation who DID come together as a country and make huge sacrifices for the greater good.

But **** 'em. They're old.
Yeah, the straw man of "they're old so screw them" gets pretty worn. I don't see anyone saying that but you have your reasons for doing so....I guess
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Yeah, the straw man of "they're old so screw them" gets pretty worn. I don't see anyone saying that but you have your reasons for doing so....I guess
Not sure how you interpret "80 year olds dying abd 8 year olds dying doesn't have the same impact." That sounds like "they're old so screw them" to me.
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Not sure how you interpret "80 year olds dying abd 8 year olds dying doesn't have the same impact." That sounds like "they're old so screw them" to me.
I interpret it the way any normal person would. One has lived 80 years and longer than a lot of people. One has lived 8 years and much shorter than most people.

I am sorry to tell you but one 8 year old is worth ten 80 year olds and I bet you those 80 year olds would all agree with me.

You say it sounds like "screw them" because you want it too. The facts are this DaFace, this virus does impact the elderly. A person in their 80's will tell you their life is not worth a person who is 8. Cold, hard life will tell you a person their 80's is not worth the life of a person who is 8.

That's not uncaring. That's just a hard fact of life. And the point he is making is 100% correct. If this disease was killing children at the rate it is killing elderly people you would see hell and high water being moved to stop it. That doesn't mean people don't care about the elderly. That means you make a rational decision that a person with 70+ years of life ahead of them is worth more than a person with 70+ years of life behind them.

Unfortunately at times that decision has to be made and it's not fun and not fair but neither is life at times.

I don't know any elderly person that wouldn't give their life for a child.
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Unfortunately at times that decision has to be made and it's not fun and not fair but neither is life at times.

I don't know any elderly person that wouldn't give their life for a child.
My issue is that this is NOT the decision that is being made. There are no 8 year olds dying that the 80 year olds have to save. The kids are fine.
That's why I have a major issue with this whole idea that it's acceptable to not care as much because they're old.
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