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Old 11-12-2019, 11:11 PM  
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Guilty! Now for the Trial - Donald Trump Impeachment Show Trial Thread


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Old 01-24-2020, 05:40 AM   #7846
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Those two things weren't said by the same person dummy
He doesnt care.

He is just desperately parroting whatever he finds on 4 chan.
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Old 01-24-2020, 06:24 AM   #7847
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Old 01-24-2020, 07:08 AM   #7848
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Newly revealed documents raise questions about the alleged Ukraine whistleblower.

Fox News host Laura Ingraham reported Wednesday evening that she obtained a chain of State Department emails stemming from a standard request for comment from New York Times journalist Ken Vogel, whose reporting helped generate scrutiny of Hunter Biden's ties to Ukrainian gas company Burisma. Hunter Biden, 49, is the son of Democratic presidential front-runner Joe Biden, and Republicans have called for him to testify during the Ukraine-related Senate impeachment trial against President Trump.

On May 1, 2019, Vogel contacted State Department official Kate Schilling about a story he was working on regarding an Obama administration meeting in January 2016 with Ukrainian prosecutors and mentioned the name of the CIA analyst believed to be the whistleblower whose complaint sparked impeachment proceedings that led to two articles of impeachment: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

Ingraham did not state the name of the alleged whistleblower — Fox News hosts are banned from doing so until the identity is confirmed — and blacked out the name when showing excerpts of documents. However, she likely was referring to Eric Ciaramella, who some Republicans and conservative media figures believe is the whistleblower.

In the email, Vogel wrote, "We are going to report that [State Department official] Elizabeth Zentos attended a meeting at the White House on 1/19/2016 with Ukrainian prosecutors and embassy officials as well as ... [redacted] from the NSC ... the subjects discussed included efforts within the United State government to support prosecutions, in Ukraine and the United Kingdom, of Burisma Holdings, ... and concerns that Hunter Biden's position with the company could complicate such efforts."

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Old 01-24-2020, 10:36 AM   #7849
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Old 01-24-2020, 10:40 AM   #7850
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You realize that poll is about impeachment right?

There is also ONLY one subset of questions in the second radio option about impeachment and removal...

but all those polls are about impeachment and approval for the most part.

I like 538 a lot, but that poll is not very accurate when it comes to removal.
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Old 01-24-2020, 10:43 AM   #7851
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...d-doesnt-mean/

Overall, our average of polls focusing on removing Trump from office shows, as of Thursday night, that 48.1 percent of Americans support doing so.


On your graph by 538 today, via 538 writer:

However, it can be misleading to make a one-to-one comparison between the impeachment tracker today and the impeachment tracker a few months ago. Before the House voted to impeach Trump, this tracker incorporated a more diverse array of questions, including those that asked if Trump should be “impeached and removed.”1 That question is now obsolete: These days, the only question pollsters are still asking about impeachment (as distinct from removal) is whether respondents approve or disapprove of the House’s decision to impeach Trump. (The removal tracker currently draws from questions that ask only if Trump should be “removed,” without mentioning impeachment.) The impeachment tracker now reflects trends in only one pretty mildly worded question, one of several reasons it’s possible that support would be higher than in other impeachment-related polls.2 A good example of this can be found in the Monmouth University poll released this week: Americans were evenly divided (49 percent to 48 percent) on whether to remove Trump from office, but they approved of the House’s decision to impeach by 7 points (53 percent to 46 percent).
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Old 01-24-2020, 11:12 AM   #7852
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Old 01-24-2020, 11:47 AM   #7853
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Overall, our average of polls focusing on removing Trump from office shows, as of Thursday night, that 48.1 percent of Americans support doing so.


On your graph by 538 today, via 538 writer:

However, it can be misleading to make a one-to-one comparison between the impeachment tracker today and the impeachment tracker a few months ago. Before the House voted to impeach Trump, this tracker incorporated a more diverse array of questions, including those that asked if Trump should be “impeached and removed.”1 That question is now obsolete: These days, the only question pollsters are still asking about impeachment (as distinct from removal) is whether respondents approve or disapprove of the House’s decision to impeach Trump. (The removal tracker currently draws from questions that ask only if Trump should be “removed,” without mentioning impeachment.) The impeachment tracker now reflects trends in only one pretty mildly worded question, one of several reasons it’s possible that support would be higher than in other impeachment-related polls.2 A good example of this can be found in the Monmouth University poll released this week: Americans were evenly divided (49 percent to 48 percent) on whether to remove Trump from office, but they approved of the House’s decision to impeach by 7 points (53 percent to 46 percent).
Oh cool looks like they wrote that today; thanks for sharing and good to know re: their polling average.
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:01 PM   #7854
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Witness intimidation, maybe???






....ah shucks...

"Gosh, why would anyone think that is inappropriate? Come on, you damn snowflakes...."

amiright?
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:06 PM   #7855
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:30 PM   #7856
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:32 PM   #7857
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Well the market is definitely tanking today. Don't know if that is related but it's definitely terrible for the country. What a stupendous waste of time.
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:48 PM   #7858
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Oh cool looks like they wrote that today; thanks for sharing and good to know re: their polling average.
No problem, Im glad they wrote it because I really do enjoy 538 and that poll has not been accurate for some time and they never addressed it. Leaving it on there is very confusing.

Also - I found this super interesting:

A new Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll found that voters in Georgia approve of Trump’s job performance 51 percent to 48 percent. That’s pretty different from what the last AJC poll found: a 44 percent approval rating and a 54 percent disapproval rating. The difference could be because this week’s AJC poll included education in its weighting formula, an important development considering that respondent pools that underrepresented white voters without a college degree may have been responsible for some of 2016’s most egregious polling errors.
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:49 PM   #7859
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Witness intimidation, maybe???






....ah shucks...

"Gosh, why would anyone think that is inappropriate? Come on, you damn snowflakes...."

amiright?
SMFH. The ****ing media is pathetic.
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Old 01-24-2020, 12:52 PM   #7860
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Witness intimidation, maybe???






....ah shucks...

"Gosh, why would anyone think that is inappropriate? Come on, you damn snowflakes...."

amiright?
LOL - There is no need for that whatsoever... Everyone knows he would be acquitted even the democrats...

This would make all GOP senators vote against Trump...

This is so idiotic. CBS needs to get its shit together.
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