Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
JakeF JakeF is offline
MVP
 
JakeF's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Casino cash: $9990400
***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

A couple of reminders...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bwana View Post
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dartgod View Post
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Last edited by Bearcat; 03-25-2020 at 08:56 AM.. Reason: adding spoiler tag
Posts: 10,605
JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.JakeF Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 06:20 PM   #106
penguinz penguinz is offline
Supporter
 
penguinz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Casino cash: $3307626
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan View Post

Coronavirus is new to humans.
Not true. SARS and MERS were types of coronavirus.
__________________
Posts: 16,222
penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.penguinz is too fat/Omaha.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 06:26 PM   #107
007 007 is offline
Shaken. Not stirred.
 
007's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: London
Casino cash: $14140126
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by TLO View Post
You're making too much sense. I'm going to have to ask you to panic and post irrationally from here on out.
__________________
My dear girl, there are some things that just aren’t done. Such as, drinking Dom Perignon ’53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs.
Posts: 65,553
007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 06:35 PM   #108
DanT DanT is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Davis, CA
Casino cash: $4701711
Quote:
Originally Posted by TLO View Post
Also - why is this story getting no attention? Seems pretty significant unless I'm missing something.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israe...avirus-vaccine
This article by Dr. James Hamblin helps explain. There are already vaccines under development. It's good that there are more potential ones, but vaccines have to go through extensive testing before we know they work. You'll notice in the article you cited that it says that the team there in Israel is working to enable preclinical testing. That testing takes place before testing in humans. The testing in humans is what ultimately matters. The scientific and regulatory world is trying to accelerate the process, but it still will take a few months, at best.

Last edited by DanT; 02-28-2020 at 09:39 PM..
Posts: 4,222
DanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 06:41 PM   #109
DanT DanT is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Davis, CA
Casino cash: $4701711
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
As I understand it, the issue isn't developing the vaccine (though I don't mean to imply that that's negligible). It's all the stuff that has to happen after that. It has to go through the trial phase to make sure it doesn't cause more harm than good, then they have to mass produce it and distribute it.

Most of the estimates I've seen have suggested early 2021 is a reasonable timeline for mass availability.

Exactly right.
Posts: 4,222
DanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliDanT 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 06:44 PM   #110
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $3449627
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
The issue with those stats is that they only cover the percent of people who were SEEN AND TREATED. It's been reported that this thing can be carried by people showing no symptoms or only mild symptoms, and it's likely that those kinds of cases actually make up the vast majority of people "infected."

The real death rate is almost certainly well below 1%, and it might be more like 0.00001%, especially once we start including areas where the medical response is prepared and better equipped than rural China.
If this is a super charged cousin of the Spanish flu that killed 20 million we could be in for a rough ride. Sure, that many died because there wasn't antibiotics and information on how virus's are transferred. But....


Historians say that at least 200K would have died because of the 10 day incubation period when the infected are asymptomatic. Mostly due to the rural places humans lived in that era. They knew to isolate the sick but the 10 day incubation period was too much for them to overcome in that era.



With modern medicine and IV antibiotics any previously healthy person shouldn't die in America from this disease that seeks immediate help. But people wait to long to go to a doctor or hospital, with the long incubation period of this virus that may exacerbate their stupid decisions to wait.



At least once every two weeks we had someone come into the ER who was septic(virus was in the blood) because they waited to long, We were able to save about 1/2. Jim Henson, founder of the Muppets died because he waited too long.
__________________
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
-YODA
Posts: 78,725
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 06:53 PM   #111
Pitt Gorilla Pitt Gorilla is offline
Banned!
 
Pitt Gorilla's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201
Casino cash: $3220194
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan View Post
There was plenty of hype, sure.

Swine flu had a low fatality rate.

SARS and MERS had a much higher fatality rate but they weren’t very infectious. So the world succeeded in isolating enough patients for the disease to fade out without going pandemic.

Corona virus looks infectious enough that it will most likely go pandemic.

The quarantines can slow it down but they won’t stamp it out. The real questions are probably:

How long before it is in general circulation like the current flu strains?

What is the fatality rate for the general population?
My son, five at the time, got H1N1. It was unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Most powerless I’ve ever felt to help my son.
__________________

Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach

Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
Posts: 45,938
Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pitt Gorilla is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 06:55 PM   #112
TLO TLO is offline
Life is changing..
 
TLO's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
Casino cash: $2224900
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
If this is a super charged cousin of the Spanish flu that killed 20 million we could be in for a rough ride. Sure, that many died because there wasn't antibiotics and information on how virus's are transferred. But....


Historians say that at least 200K would have died because of the 10 day incubation period when the infected are asymptomatic. Mostly due to the rural places humans lived in that era. They knew to isolate the sick but the 10 day incubation period was too much for them to overcome in that era.



With modern medicine and IV antibiotics any previously healthy person shouldn't die in America from this disease that seeks immediate help. But people wait to long to go to a doctor or hospital, with the long incubation period of this virus that may exacerbate their stupid decisions to wait.



At least once every two weeks we had someone come into the ER who was septic(virus was in the blood) because they waited to long, We were able to save about 1/2. Jim Henson, founder of the Muppets died because he waited too long.
I don't think you understand that antibiotics don't do anything for viruses. I've seen you post stuff about antibiotics and viruses a few times now.
Posts: 38,693
TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 07:15 PM   #113
DaFace DaFace is offline
Kind of a mod
 
DaFace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
Casino cash: $2336899
Damn. CDC just raised Italy to Level 3 (don't travel for nonessential reasons). I have a trip booked there this summer, so I hope they get things under control by then.
Posts: 51,593
DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 07:28 PM   #114
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $3449627
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by TLO View Post
I don't think you understand that antibiotics don't do anything for viruses. I've seen you post stuff about antibiotics and viruses a few times now.
It doesn't effect the virus, its the side effects that it works on that kill us. The virus doesn't kill you, the effects from the virus can kill you.

Come on man why even put anyone in the hospital, have them go see a doctor? Its a virus, nothing we can do, your going to die or not die anyway, right?
__________________
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
-YODA

Last edited by BigRedChief; 02-28-2020 at 07:34 PM..
Posts: 78,725
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 0 Thumbs Down 1     Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 08:09 PM   #115
TLO TLO is offline
Life is changing..
 
TLO's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
Casino cash: $2224900
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
It doesn't effect the virus, its the side effects that it works on that kill us. The virus doesn't kill you, the effects from the virus can kill you.

Come on man why even put anyone in the hospital, have them go see a doctor? Its a virus, nothing we can do, your going to die or not die anyway, right?



Posts: 38,693
TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 08:16 PM   #116
007 007 is offline
Shaken. Not stirred.
 
007's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: London
Casino cash: $14140126
VARSITY
Truth
__________________
My dear girl, there are some things that just aren’t done. Such as, drinking Dom Perignon ’53 above the temperature of 38 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s just as bad as listening to the Beatles without earmuffs.
Posts: 65,553
007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.007 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 08:18 PM   #117
suzzer99 suzzer99 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
suzzer99's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: L.A.
Casino cash: $3274284
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
But that's the whole issue - it's a low probability event that is getting a HUGE amount of media attention and is now bordering on causing mass hysteria. There's a chance we'll get hit by a massive asteroid in the next year and all of humanity will be wiped out. Don't think I'll change my vacation plans just yet, though.
You might feel different if you were 80 years old or immunocompromised. This is a very real threat for some groups. My 79-year-old Dad is a little concerned.
Posts: 27,157
suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.suzzer99 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 08:24 PM   #118
TLO TLO is offline
Life is changing..
 
TLO's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
Casino cash: $2224900
Quote:
Originally Posted by suzzer99 View Post
You might feel different if you were 80 years old or immunocompromised. This is a very real threat for some groups. My 79-year-old Dad is a little concerned.
I agree fully. I think I've stated this elsewhere, but my main concern is this spreading in places like nursing homes and the like.
Posts: 38,693
TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 08:24 PM   #119
KCUnited KCUnited is offline
Cheat Death
 
KCUnited's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Land of Drincoln
Casino cash: $2598244
Wash your coats, bitch
Posts: 33,701
KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.KCUnited is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2020, 08:41 PM   #120
Sassy Squatch Sassy Squatch is offline
The man you could post like.
 
Sassy Squatch's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2010
Casino cash: $2769655
.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	FB_IMG_1582943682193.jpg
Views:	1006
Size:	80.7 KB
ID:	120003  
Posts: 37,547
Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sassy Squatch is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:06 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.