***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Iirc, if a test has an 85% accuracy and is back in a day or less, you can always isolate and administer a second test that would also have 85% accuracy. So you’re really testing 15% a second time and the overall accuracy of that approach would be highly efficient. From the outside looking in, that seems like an obvious go to. Even if the % is less.

Yep

Makes sense to me

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/ballouxfrancois/...431470593?s=21

Good breakdown on the children’s camp study

[O.city]

It looks like Florida Arizona Texas and somewhat California are all really on the downside here which is great news

But now some midwestern states are starting to fire up. Hopefully it doesn’t get to crazy.

[JakeLV]

https://www.goethe-university-frankf...ases?year=2020

Super interesting information in here. Apparently, by blocking the production of a specific protein in cells, you both stop the virus from replicating AND increase the natural human response to it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

It looks like Florida Arizona Texas and somewhat California are all really on the downside here which is great news

But now some midwestern states are starting to fire up. Hopefully it doesn’t get to crazy.

Well we started in the NW, then the NE, then the SW and SE, now the mid-west.

Not gonna be much left after this....

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by JakeLV

https://www.goethe-university-frankf...ases?year=2020

Super interesting information in here. Apparently, by blocking the production of a specific protein in cells, you both stop the virus from replicating AND increase the natural human response to it.

Thanks for sharing sounds hopeful

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well we started in the NW, then the NE, then the SW and SE, now the mid-west.

Not gonna be much left after this....

Makes you glad we got most of it out of the way while a lot of countrys that shut down early just put it off and are now getting rocked.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Makes you glad we got most of it out of the way while a lot of countrys that shut down early just put it off and are now getting rocked.

Which countries are those?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Which countries are those?

https://www.wmdt.com/i/the-latest-to...oncerns-mount/
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...4711596282750/

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

https://www.wmdt.com/i/the-latest-to...oncerns-mount/

Tokyo/Japan didn't lock down. If you're going to try to push an agenda, you should at least try to be accurate.

[Kiimo]

Tokyo reports 292 new cases.

US reports 58,429 new cases

Americans: sucks to be you!

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Tokyo/Japan didn't lock down. If you're going to try to push an agenda, you should at least try to be accurate.

You are playing semantics as usual.

The talking points were how much smarter they were than us at keeping it under control by using steps most of you bitch about us not mandating now. Eventually the dam is going to break unless you have a vaccine.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You are playing semantics as usual.

The talking points were how much smarter they were than us at keeping it under control by using steps most of you bitch about us not mandating now. Eventually the dam is going to break unless you have a vaccine.

No, that's wrong. You stated this:

Makes you glad we got most of it out of the way while a lot of countrys that shut down early just put it off and are now getting rocked.

I asked you which countries. You replied with Japan.

As you know now, Japan didn't lock down.

That's wrong.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Donger

No, that's wrong. You stated this:

Makes you glad we got most of it out of the way while a lot of countrys that shut down early just put it off and are now getting rocked.

I asked you which countries. You replied with Japan.

As you know now, Japan didn't lock down.

That's wrong.

You are playing semantics again. This guy nailed it months ago and many of you stated how wearing mask for 4 weeks would allow us to go back to normal. You get the point, you just have nothing to do but argue little shit on the internet all day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lze-rMYLf2E

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You are playing semantics as usual.

The talking points were how much smarter they were than us at keeping it under control by using steps most of you bitch about us not mandating now. Eventually the dam is going to break unless you have a vaccine.

Yes, Japan had a mask rate in excess of 95%.

We are still just above 50%