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Old 09-29-2019, 04:41 PM  
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Giuliani was not working alone in Biden Ukraine probe

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giu...-ukraine-probe

Rudy Giuliani was not the only attorney trying to get damaging information on Joe Biden from Ukrainian officials, and President Trump’s decision to withhold aid from Ukraine this summer was made in spite of several federal agencies supporting the aid, Fox News’ Chris Wallace revealed on “Fox News Sunday.”

In addition to Giuliani, Washington, D.C., lawyers Joe DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing worked alongside the former New York City mayor. According to a top U.S. official, the three attorneys were working "off the books" -- not within the Trump administration -- and only the president knows the details of their work.

DiGenova and Toensing have been staunch supporters of President Trump, and were close to joining his legal team during Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. That ultimately did not happen due to conflicts, as Toensing had previously represented witnesses who had already spoken to Mueller’s team.

When asked by Fox News' Maria Bartiromo if he was working with other attorneys to get information about Biden, Giuliani denied it.

"No. I didn't work with anybody to try and get dirt on Joe Biden," Giuliani said on "Sunday Morning Futures," claiming that the information was handed to him rather than sought out.

A whistleblower complaint citing “multiple U.S. government officials” accused Trump of pressuring Ukraine to investigate Biden in a July 25 phone call. Democrats claim that Trump used military aid as leverage over Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, although Zelensky insists there was no pressure at all.

Trump claims that while he did delay aid to Ukraine, it was because he was pushing for European nations such as Germany to provide additional aid to Ukraine, and that he eventually did provide the aid.

Fox News has learned that the Pentagon, State Department, and National Security Council were “unanimous” in supporting the aid to Ukraine, and that Trump acted alone in withholding the aid over the summer.

Giuiani has gone on record saying that his investigation began as a probe of possible Ukrainian collusion with the Democratic Party in the 2016 election, which led to him looking into Biden as well. In his call with Zelensky, Trump did reference Crowdstrike, a cybersecurity firm that had worked on an investigation of a hacked Democratic National Committee server. Trump also claimed that the server itself, which the FBI never acquired, may currently be in Ukraine.

The former New York City mayor asserts that Hunter Biden engaged in improper activity related to his business dealings with energy company Burisma Holdings, and claims that then-Vice President Joe Biden used his office to pressure the Ukrainian government into firing top prosecutor Viktor Shokin, who was investigating Burisma.

Biden has acknowledged this in the past, stating that he threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine if they did not fire Shokin. Biden denies wrongdoing, and has not stated that he did this to protect his son, as Shokin had been accused of corruption.

Genova and Toensing have publicly called out Biden, accusing him of acting on behalf of his son, and disputing claims that Shokin was corrupt.

A memo released by the White House containing the substance of the call showed that the two leaders discussed U.S. aid to Ukraine as well as the Biden investigation. There was no overt link or reference to a quid pro quo, but Democrats claim the pressure was implied.

Speculation that Trump may have sought campaign assistance from a foreign government -- and the allegation that he used military aid as leverage – has increased demand from Democrats that Trump be impeached, where the party had been split on the issue in the past. While figures such as House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., have long touted efforts to investigate Trump for the purpose of impeachment, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had been hesitant to support such a move, out of fear that the move would be politically divisive if the American people did not support it.

After news of the whistleblower complaint came out, however, Pelosi called for a formal impeachment inquiry.

Republicans, meanwhile are criticizing the complaint because the whistleblower did not have firsthand knowledge of the call. Top Republicans have been pushing for the identity the whistleblower’s government sources.

Republicans specifically questioned why the whistleblower's sources in the White House didn't file a complaint themselves -- especially given that relevant whistleblower procedures did not protect second-hand complaints until just days before the whistleblower filed the complaint against Trump. (The New York Times reported that the whistleblower is a CIA officer detailed to the White House. Fox News has not confirmed The Times' report.)

Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., a member of the House Judiciary Committee, told Fox News' "Shepard Smith Reporting" on Thursday that the administration had an apparent "leak problem," adding, "if they're leaking something that's supposed to be classified, then ... that probably is criminal in nature."
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:14 PM   #2
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:21 PM   #3
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:26 PM   #4
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:27 PM   #5
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:28 PM   #6
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What are the odds that there is much more to the whole 'Ukraine' ordeal than anyone here can possibly realize at this point?




Rep. Schiff is connected to a Ukrainian arms dealer. In 2013 Ukrainian Igor Pasternak held two different fund raisers for Schiff, asking for contributions between $1,000 and $2,500.



https://theduran.com/adam-schiffs-co...ealer-exposed/
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:28 PM   #7
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Rep. Schiff is connected to a Ukrainian arms dealer. In 2013 Ukrainian Igor Pasternak held two different fund raisers for Schiff, asking for contributions between $1,000 and $2,500.



https://theduran.com/adam-schiffs-co...ealer-exposed/
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:58 PM   #9
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Leftists believe that Biden should be free to have committed any crime he wants as long as he's a "political opponent"

not the first time I've said that.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:48 AM   #12
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Giuliani has already appeared on TV saying he was asked by the State Depart to help investigate corruption. He has a record of prosecuting criminals. Why this is a bad thing to the left and the most virulent anti-Trumper is beyond me.

This is another nothing burger.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:54 AM   #14
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Giuliani has already appeared on TV saying he was asked by the State Depart to help investigate corruption. He has a record of prosecuting criminals. Why this is a bad thing to the left and the most virulent anti-Trumper is beyond me.

This is another nothing burger.
Actually, what he said was that he was sent to get dirt on Biden.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:56 AM   #15
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Giuliani has already appeared on TV saying he was asked by the State Depart to help investigate corruption. He has a record of prosecuting criminals. Why this is a bad thing to the left and the most virulent anti-Trumper is beyond me.

This is another nothing burger.
Unless he's changed his story, I think what he's said is that the State Department asked him to meet with Ukrainians to reassure them that our relationship was on solid ground, because the Ukrainians were worried they'd offended him and the President. Still a nothing burger.
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