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Old 01-20-2013, 10:26 PM  
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# FIRST LAST POSITION HT WT SCHOOL
14 Landry Jones QB 6'4" 220 Oklahoma
3 EJ Manuel QB 6'4" 240 Florida State
8 Tyler Wilson QB 6'2" 218 Arkansas

23 Andre Ellington RB 5'9" 192 Clemson
22 Mike Gillislee RB 5'11" 210 Florida
32 Onterio McCalebb RB / RS 5'11" 173 Auburn
33 Stepfan Taylor RB 5'11" 215 Stanford

42 Tommy Bohanon FB 6'2" 245 Wake Forest

11 Cobi Hamilton WR 6'2" 209 Arkansas
12 Tavarres King WR 6'1" 200 Georgia
4 Quinton Patton WR 6'2" 195 Louisiana Tech
25 Ryan Swope WR 6'0" 206 Texas A&M
82 Conner Vernon WR 6'1" 200 Duke
2 Terrance Williams WR 6'2" 205 Baylor

88 Vance McDonald TE 6'4" 260 Rice
81 Mychal Rivera TE 6'3" 244 Tennessee
89 Michael Williams TE 6'5" 272 Alabama

72 Oday Aboushi OL 6'6" 310 Virginia
76 D.J. Fluker OL 6'6" 335 Alabama
64 Dalton Freeman OL 6'5" 285 Clemson
65 Garrett Gilkey OL 6'7" 320 Chadron State
69 Lane Johnson OL 6'6" 303 Oklahoma
73 Xavier Nixon OL 6'5" 314 Florida
57 Brian Schwenke OL 6'4" 300 Cal
71 Dallas Thomas OL 6'5" 310 Tennessee
74 J.C. Tretter OL 6'4" 300 Cornell
67 Larry Warford OL 6'3" 343 Kentucky

18 Dustin Hopkins PK 6'2" 190 Florida State

51 Carson Tinker LS 6'1" 224 Alabama

47 Ezekial Ansah DL 6'5" 270 Brigham Young
93 Everett Dawkins DL 6'2" 304 Florida State
89 Lavar Edwards DL 6'5" 258 LSU
97 Malliciah Goodman DL 6'4" 270 Clemson
46 Corey Grissom DL 6'2" 316 South Florida
54 Montori Hughes DL 6'4" 327 Tennessee-Martin
6 John Jenkins DL 6'3" 358 Georgia
83 Cornelius Washington DL 6'4" 268 Georgia

8 Jamie Collins LB 6'1" 228 Southern Miss
25 Zaviar Gooden LB 6'2" 230 Missouri
35 Nico Johnson LB 6'2" 245 Alabama
10 Sean Porter LB 6'2" 230 Texas A&M
44 Chase Thomas LB 6'4" 248 Stanford
1 Vince Williams LB 6'1" 250 Florida State

23 Robert Alford DB 6'0" 185 Southeastern La.
24 Marc Anthony DB 6'0" 200 Cal
29 Sanders Commings DB 6'2" 216 Georgia
37 Robert Lester DB 6'2" 212 Alabama
2 Leon McFadden DB 5'10" 190 San Diego State
18 Bacarri Rambo DB 6'0" 210 Georgia
22 B.W. Webb DB 5'10" 180 William & Mary
19 J.J. Wilcox DB 6'0" 215 Georgia Southern
26 Shawn Williams DB 6'1" 218 Georgia
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# FIRST LAST POSITION HT WT SCHOOL
7 Zac Dysert QB 6'3" 228 Miami OH
8 Mike Glennon QB 6'5" 232 North Carolina State
12 Ryan Nassib QB 6'2" 228 Syracuse

24 Kenjon Barner RB 5'11" 192 Oregon
23 Johnathan Franklin RB 5'10" 198 UCLA
28 Robbie Rouse RB 5'7" 190 Fresno State

40 Kyle Juszczyk FB 6'3" 240 Harvard

3 Aaron Dobson WR 6'2" 206 Marshall
1 Marquise Goodwin WR 5'9" 177 Texas
83 Chris Harper WR 6'1" 228 Kansas State
33 Aaron Mellette WR 6'4" 220 Elon
16 Denard Robinson WR 5'11" 197 Michigan
2 Markus Wheaton WR 6'0" 182 Oregon State

18 Jack Doyle TE 6'6" 253 Western Kentucky
44 Nick Kasa TE 6'6" 260 Colorado
82 Ryan Otten TE 6'5" 245 San Jose State

52 Braxston Cave OL 6'3" 304 Notre Dame
79 Eric Fisher OL 6'7" 305 Central Michigan
74 Kyle Long OL 6'7" 312 Oregon
70 Joe Madsen OL 6'4" 305 West Virginia
67 Justin Pugh OL 6'5" 297 Syracuse
76 David Quessenberry OL 6'6" 295 San Jose State
72 Hugh Thornton OL 6'4" 310 Illinois
58 Ricky Wagner OL 6'6" 318 Wisconsin
66 Brian Winters OL 6'5" 310 Kent State

13 Quinn Sharp PK 6'1" 205 Oklahoma State

45 Luke Ingram LS 6'6" 235 Hawaii

99 Michael Buchanan DL 6'5" 240 Illinois
96 Margus Hunt DL 6'7" 280 SMU
57 Datone Jones DL 6'4" 275 UCLA
80 Alex Okafor DL 6'5" 265 Texas
97 Jordan Hill DL 6'1" 292 Penn State
93 Kawann Short DL 6'3" 315 Purdue
66 Brandon Williams DL 6'3" 325 Missouri Southern
92 Sylvester Williams DL 6'3" 320 North Carolina

43 Steve Beauharnais LB 6'2" 230 Rutgers
44 Arthur Brown LB 6'1" 228 Kansas State
20 Khaseem Greene LB 6'1" 230 Rutgers
48 Kevin Reddick LB 6'2" 240 North Carolina
54 John Simon LB 6'2" 263 Ohio State
46 Trevardo Williams LB 6'2" 233 Connecticut

37 Jonathan Cyprien DB 6'0" 210 Florida International
17 Will Davis DB 6'0" 186 Utah State
27 Dwayne Gratz DB 6'0" 198 Connecticut
7 TJ McDonald DB 6'2" 205 USC
14 Jordan Poyer DB 5'11" 190 Oregon State
21 Jamar Taylor DB 5'11" 196 Boise State
16 Philip Thomas DB 6'1" 215 Fresno State
6 Desmond Trufant DB 6'0" 186 Washington
4 Duke Williams DB 6'1" 200 Nevada
15 Blidi Wreh-Wilson DB 6'1" 190 Connecticut

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Old 01-24-2013, 10:09 AM   #106
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A late round or UDFA RB I like is Michael Hill out of Missouri Western. Hill is 5'11", 210 (4.5) that ran for over 2,000 yards this season.... Tore up the Raycom game with around 150 yards rushing and at least 2 TD's.
Yeah, I just looked him up. Not bad.
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:10 AM   #107
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I admit I don't mind Nassib. If we passed on a 1st round QB, he would make sense in the 2nd round. Then again teams could reach for him if QB's start going off the board in the 1st quick.

My only major knock on him is he doesn't drive his deep balls... He definitely has a habit of floating his deep balls. Much like Barkley and Dysert, they are WCO system guys only. Short to intermediary stuff is their game.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:12 AM   #108
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Mayock was comparing him to Dalton, which I think is a fair comparison. Personally, I would like to aim a little higher.
I think he's better than Dalton.

Like htismage said, I think he's typically a 2nd/3rd round guy who will likely go in the 1st this year. I really like his release and movement w/in the pocket. I really dislike his lack of accuracy on 9s. Solid accuracy on posts, deep digs but does struggle with touch on the deep ball considerably more so than Geno, Wilson, Barkley, and even Glennon.

He'd be a great kid to draft in the late/mid first and let sit for 2-3 years.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:24 AM   #109
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I admit I don't mind Nassib. If we passed on a 1st round QB, he would make sense in the 2nd round. Then again teams could reach for him if QB's start going off the board in the 1st quick.

My only major knock on him is he doesn't drive his deep balls... He definitely has a habit of floating his deep balls. Much like Barkley and Dysert, they are WCO system guys only. Short to intermediary stuff is their game.
Sorry I don't want Ryan Fitzpatrick as my QB.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:27 AM   #110
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Sorry I don't want Ryan Fitzpatrick as my QB.
He's not Fitz. Doesn't have a Cassel-esque release ala Fitz and isn't a guy who played for a contract IMO.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:59 AM   #111
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Sorry I don't want Ryan Fitzpatrick as my QB.
Oh no, no, no.

Terrible comparison.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:01 PM   #112
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Mayock and Davis have their senior bowl QB analysis up at nfl.com

Basically everyone is afraid to commit to anything. Positives about everyone, won't even venture to guess where/what round. These guys are afraid to make a prediction without the input of teams/scouts when big boards are really getting set.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:22 PM   #113
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Mayock and Davis have their senior bowl QB analysis up at nfl.com

Basically everyone is afraid to commit to anything. Positives about everyone, won't even venture to guess where/what round. These guys are afraid to make a prediction without the input of teams/scouts when big boards are really getting set.
I don't understand why. They aren't going to lose their jobs over being wrong and it isn't like anyone in the NFL really takes them seriously. Why the **** can't they just sack up and be honest?
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:01 PM   #114
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Mayock and Davis have their senior bowl QB analysis up at nfl.com

Basically everyone is afraid to commit to anything. Positives about everyone, won't even venture to guess where/what round. These guys are afraid to make a prediction without the input of teams/scouts when big boards are really getting set.
Flacco being the perfect example with Mayock since his Senior Bowl week till draft day Mayock had him going in the second round then suddenly he was a 1st round QB talent.
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Jake Knott is a LB just as good if not better than Klein who will probably be drafted at least one round later than him.
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I know I'm a broken record on that, but if you like Klein you have to like Knott too. Both will be bargin picks. In the NFL they might not be that big name, but they will be very good, oprotunistic, and make few mistakes. dedicated hard working team players that are great to have on the team. You can't have 22 Pro Bowlers, exactly the type of players to have line up with your stars and not be a weak link.
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It would be interesting to see which announcers/analysts are represented by the same agents/corps as the prospects.
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This is as good as place as any to post this. Yesterday I was watching 212 and Mayock stated that 15 QBs have been drafted in the 1st round in the last five years. 14 are starters with Tebow being the lone exception.

Yet another fact for any peeps who don't want to draft a QB at 1.1.
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This is as good as place as any to post this. Yesterday I was watching 212 and Mayock stated that 15 QBs have been drafted in the 1st round in the last five years. 14 are starters with Tebow being the lone exception.

Yet another fact for any peeps who don't want to draft a QB at 1.1.
things have changed

and if you have any competent coaching at all, you should be able to start rookies...
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This is as good as place as any to post this. Yesterday I was watching 212 and Mayock stated that 15 QBs have been drafted in the 1st round in the last five years. 14 are starters with Tebow being the lone exception.

Yet another fact for any peeps who don't want to draft a QB at 1.1.
Wouldn't you expect a first round QB drafted within the last 3 years to be the starter and still be under the evaluation process?

I'm guessing there is a decent chance that Sanchez can be added to the failed test this upcoming year and maybe Gabbert.
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