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Old 12-29-2008, 10:51 AM  
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:03 PM   #46
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It was a fan backing Marty, thus helping further my point-I wouldn't expect you to actually ACKNOWLEDGE that-that would mean, you have to admit fault-something I can't see you doing anytime soon. Again, I'm not in the camp that thinks Marty is a God, but acting like many in KC don't act that way is foolish. I see it EVERY DAY-hell it happens on this very site on a routine basis-sorry you can't see-you might want to have that looked at.
Only in your mind does a single post on an internet message board prove the mindset of the fans in KC. That's the most backassward thinking I've seen yet today.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:08 PM   #47
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Only in your mind does a single post on an internet message board prove the mindset of the fans in KC. That's the most backassward thinking I've seen yet today.
Yes, Brock I'm basing it ALL , SOLELY on that single post. No decade of posts and articles, and reports and discussing with people-nope just that single post. Your clutching at straws now.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:09 PM   #48
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Yes, Brock I'm basing it ALL , SOLELY on that single post. No decade of posts and articles, and reports and discussing with people-nope just that single post. Your clutching at straws now.
I'm not the one pointing at a single post and saying "I rest my case", which is just a weak way of saying "I can't prove anything and I want out of the argument". You could at least post a poll, as unscientific as that would be.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:11 PM   #49
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I dont know, but their QB wasnt a big fan of Cowher and Tomlin is doing an nice job building a franchise without looking like Marty Jr......
Tomlin is doing an okay job. He installed a spread offense which most fans believe was a HUGE mistake. Talk to any Steelers fan--they despise their offense. Their offensive line has gone from solid to atrocious.

And Tomlin is working mostly with Cowher's used parts. Apart from Lamar Woodley (who's awesome) and Hartwig, what impact player wasn't developed under Cowher?

I like Tomlin. But he's got a very long way before Steelers' fans even remotely compare him to Cowher. They wouldn't fire Tomlin because that would be unfair to him, but let's not pretend that they're doing the same thing. We've seen this game before. Bill Callahan made a Super Bowl with Gruden's used parts, Herm Edwards made the playoffs with Vermeil's used parts. You never know what a coach is made of until he develops his own team. Cowher's done it many times, Tomlin hasn't done that yet.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:14 PM   #50
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I honestly don't know if I'd want Cowher even if he'd take the job. Yeah, he won the big one - if you can call being the beneficiary of the most bent officiating in Super Bowl history a win - but more often, he took teams overloaded with talent and ran them into the ground.
But he's only fielded 3 teams under .500 in 15 seasons.

And when you say that his teams were overloaded with talent, I would argue that he had a big role in that, wouldn't you? Cowher is a really, really good coach. He's taken his team deep into the playoffs and the Super Bowl with changeovers at key positions, many different coordinators, etc....
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:20 PM   #51
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That certainly didn't stop Marty from going to San Diego. I just think seeing how Savage was handled is enough to make anybody think twice about that job.
I think Cower is actually FROM Pittsburgh. Unlike Marty and KC.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:22 PM   #52
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But he's only fielded 3 teams under .500 in 15 seasons.

And when you say that his teams were overloaded with talent, I would argue that he had a big role in that, wouldn't you? Cowher is a really, really good coach. He's taken his team deep into the playoffs and the Super Bowl with changeovers at key positions, many different coordinators, etc....
I'm not saying he's a bad coach, but he's not the Great White Hope. I think he's just Marty II with a bit more playoff luck.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:28 PM   #53
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I'm not the one pointing at a single post and saying "I rest my case", which is just a weak way of saying "I can't prove anything and I want out of the argument". You could at least post a poll, as unscientific as that would be.
Again, Marty is treated like an ICON in KC, whether you want to acknowledge that or not is on you, not me.
Your splitting hairs about who's more popular Marty or Cowher-you've turned into a popularity contest and I could give two shits about that. I know how Marty is viewed by the masses, I don't need a ****ing poll, to tell me what I already know. Besides that, without having as many Steeler fans as Chiefs fans, I'm certain the poll would be seriously flawed and hardly worth the effort to put out, but just tell yourself, Marty isn't an icon in KC-that'll make you feel better, even though, you are wrong. Take comfort in knowing the argument is ****ing lame in the first place and you just want to get in someone's face, because you can't dare be wrong.


Yep, Marty is an unknown in these parts-yep, sure thing.
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I think Cower is actually FROM Pittsburgh. Unlike Marty and KC.
He's from North Carolina.
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Again, Marty is treated like an ICON in KC, whether you want to acknowledge that or not is on you, not me.
Your splitting hairs about who's more popular Marty or Cowher-you've turned into a popularity contest and I could give two shits about that. I know how Marty is viewed by the masses, I don't need a ****ing poll, to tell me what I already know. Besides that, without having as many Steeler fans as Chiefs fans, I'm certain the poll would be seriously flawed and hardly worth the effort to put out, but just tell yourself, Marty isn't an icon in KC-that'll make you feel better, even though, you are wrong. Take comfort in knowing the argument is ****ing lame in the first place and you just want to get in someone's face, because you can't dare be wrong.


Yep, Marty is an unknown in these parts-yep, sure thing.

A nice, wordy response saying essentially nothing to prove your point, followed by a straw man statement in a weak attempt to discredit. You must be a republican.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:31 PM   #56
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He's from North Carolina.
No, he isn't. He was born and raised in a suburb of Pittsburgh.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:34 PM   #57
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No, he isn't. He was born and raised in a suburb of Pittsburgh.
I thought he was from NC, until I looked up his bio, and I was wrong. He did go to school at NCSU (North Carolina State University) and his wife also went to NCSU.

They currently reside in NC though. If I recall, I think their children went/are going to school in NCSU, but I can be wrong on this.
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No, he isn't. He was born and raised in a suburb of Pittsburgh.
He has some kind of tie to Carolina though. They always talk about it. Is it his wife maybe?
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He has some kind of tie to Carolina though. They always talk about it. Is it his wife maybe?
Maybe, and I'm pretty sure one of his kids go to UNC. I remember hearing they were building some palatial estate there.
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A nice, wordy response saying essentially nothing to prove your point, followed by a straw man statement in a weak attempt to discredit. You must be a republican.
In other words, you won't do anything yourself to disprove what I say, but you'll pile on in an attempt be the board bully. Color me unimpressed. Everybody bow down to Brock and his fragile ego.
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