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Old 05-21-2020, 07:47 PM  
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Data Leak Suggests China Had Hundreds of Thousands of Coronavirus Cases

Data Leak Suggests China Had Hundreds of Thousands of Coronavirus Cases in 230 Cities

Jim Geraghty
National Review




This may be the most spectacularly under-discussed story of the pandemic:
A dataset of coronavirus cases and deaths from the military’s National University of Defense Technology, leaked to 100Reporters, offers insight into how Beijing has gathered coronavirus data on its population. The source of the leak, who asked to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of sharing Chinese military data, said that the data came from the university. . . .

While not fully comprehensive, the data is incredibly rich: There are more than 640,000 updates of information, covering at least 230 cities—in other words, 640,000 rows purporting to show the number of cases in a specific location at the time the data was gathered. Each update includes the latitude, longitude, and “confirmed” number of cases at the location, for dates ranging from early February to late April.
It is worth noting that each of the 640,000 updates counts a number of cases, and that number may be more than one: “The dataset reports one case of coronavirus in a KFC in the eastern city of Zhenjiang on March 14, for example, while a church in the northeastern provincial capital of Harbin saw two cases on March 17.”

There are many reasons to doubt China’s official numbers. The official count of cases hit 84,000 at the beginning of March and has barely risen at all since then. Since March 1, the official data indicates the country — with almost 1.4 billion people — has had only one day with more than 300 new cases. China’s official figures show just two deaths since April 17. In mid-April, the city of Wuhan revised its number of coronavirus deaths from 2,579 to 3,869 — a statistically improbable increase of exactly 50 percent. If China’s numbers are accurate, then tiny Peru — a country with about 2 percent of China’s population — has more cases since the start of the pandemic.

The contention that a country with almost 1.4 billion people, with many living in close quarters in crowded cities with sanitary conditions that are less than ideal, simply brought its number of new cases and deaths down to nearly zero overnight is simply not plausible.

What are China’s real numbers? If each of the updates is a report of one case, the country had 640,000 cases; if the average of each update is 2 cases, it’s about 1.28 million cases; if the average of each update is 3 cases, it’s 1.92 million cases. Keep in mind, this is in 230 cities — not the entire country, but a good chunk of it.

This dataset from 100Reporters suggests China had at least 640,000 to 2 million cases in 230 cities in a three-month period, a range which feels a lot more plausible than the official numbers, if not an absolutely complete count.

A sum of 640,000 by itself would be the second-highest number of total cases in the world, behind the United States and nearly twice as many as Russia’s 308,000. (For what it’s worth, China’s official numbers indicated the country had 17,000 cases by early February.)

China is the furthest along in this pandemic, and ideally, the rest of the world would be able to look at their experiences to know what to expect as the outbreak progresses. But the top priority of the Chinese government is to look masterly and in control at all times, leaving the rest of the world guessing at just how bad things are in that country.


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Old 05-21-2020, 07:49 PM   #2
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It's no shock to me that any of the numbers coming out of China are unreliable at best.
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Old 05-21-2020, 11:06 PM   #3
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It's no shock to me that any of the numbers coming out of China are unreliable at best.
They aren't even trying to hide it, at this point, they are simply declining to report numbers. They need to keep up the illusion that they have it under control.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:07 AM   #4
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Propaganda suggests another fake pointless story
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:14 AM   #5
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ok dude, we get it
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Old 05-22-2020, 03:16 AM   #6
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ok dude, we get it
no, you dont get anything. You just keep letting news tell you what and how to think. You have no way of proving any details outside your own front yard.

all on tv is propaganda. Half truths or outright lies
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Old 05-22-2020, 05:21 AM   #7
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I hope the Trump administration is considering something like TPP, a multi-nation trade agreement aimed at presenting a united front to China.

I’m not endorsing TPP itself. Just unified trade action against China.
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:03 AM   #8
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no, you dont get anything. You just keep letting news tell you what and how to think. You have no way of proving any details outside your own front yard.

all on tv is propaganda. Half truths or outright lies
I've asked you several times but I guess you never seen it, so I'll ask again:

Is HIV real?
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:22 PM   #9
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I've asked you several times but I guess you never seen it, so I'll ask again:

Is HIV real?
Not they way they presented it.
They weren't getting sick and dying from gay sex.
It was from recreational drugs that amplified it and what ever doctors were doing wrong.

Is Magic dead? Nope. Greg Luganis? Nope.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:27 PM   #10
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Not they way they presented it.
They weren't getting sick and dying from gay sex.
It was from recreational drugs that amplified it and what ever doctors were doing wrong.

Is Magic dead? Nope. Greg Luganis? Nope.
Wait, no. The actual virus that can be seen here:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-i...-3d-1469563844

Is it real?
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:40 PM   #11
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Wait, no. The actual virus that can be seen here:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-i...-3d-1469563844

Is it real?
I'm not sure what you're asking or why.

I'll simply say it's as bogus as whsts happening now. Whether a real virus or not.

If you're asking whether I know what the virus looks like? Of course not.
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Old 05-22-2020, 12:43 PM   #12
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I'm not sure what you're asking or why.

I'll simply say it's as bogus as whsts happening now. Whether a real virus or not.

If you're asking whether I know what the virus looks like? Of course not.
OK, no further questions. Thanks.
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Lol wut?
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