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Old 05-23-2020, 07:43 PM  
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What a functioning testing and contact tracing apparatus could do/have done for us

A long article that's worth your time, but an excerpt:

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A 29-year-old South Korean man who didnít know he had the virus went barhopping on April 30, after the country loosened restrictions. He and a friend went to five bars and clubs in Seoul. To date, 187 positive cases have been tied to this night on the town, including 93 people who visited the same nightspots as the pair. At these clubs, it is pretty clear they did not maintain social distancing restrictions.

Because of South Koreaís frankly incredible contact tracing operation, we know a lot about these cases. Researchers say 5,517 people attended the five spots the man visited during the timeline of possible spread. But because these were gay clubs ó and homosexuality isnít always accepted in Korea ó many wrote down fake names upon entry. As a result, Korean health officials hadnít been able to contact about 700 of them as of May 13.

We also know a lot about the secondary cases. For example, a 25-year-old teacher got the virus at one of those clubs and later infected 11 people, including five students at the school. As a result, 1,000 members of the church that those students attend have been told to stay home and monitor for symptoms.

In all, over 35,000 people have been tested in relation to this cluster. 35,000! And 8,500 police officers were deployed to stop the outbreak. In reaction, South Korea pushed back opening schools one week. But about a month later, Koreaís efforts to quarantine those associated with the cluster seem to have worked.
If South Korea can, why can't we?

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/05/23/your-guide-how/
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:02 PM   #61
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Trump's running a tight ship over there. Pure incompetence.
lol, can't see what actually was going on there...
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:04 PM   #62
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For GOSH SAKES! Life has RISKS. It's not an excuse for excessive losses of freedom by implementing Brave New World govt policies.

This reminds me of my left-progressive chiro who loves the idea of driver-less cars, because everyone is controlled to go the speed limit and controlled for less accidents. The do-gooder for the do-gooder govtówhich won't turn out to be such a do-gooder.

It's disgusting how some people think.
They want this to be permanent. They want everyone's kids to not have any social contact within 6 feet, wear masks for the rest of their lives, only mega corps allowed to do business, people arrested for disobedience like going to the beach or camping.

They think by supporting this they will receive good ranks in the new world order, but they failed to learn anything from history.
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Old 05-24-2020, 09:07 PM   #63
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or if they somehow manage to regain power (which is what this is all about). They'll instruct all of the worlds "experts" to say coast is clear and we're all safe now and the media will blast 24/7 "See, once Trump was gone Covid19 is gone!" and they will all rejoice and never allow someone to be elected ever again "to prevent another Trump."
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Old 05-24-2020, 10:47 PM   #64
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How so you balance this with the guy who came in contact with 455 and infected no one.
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Old 05-25-2020, 05:00 AM   #65
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They want this to be permanent. They want everyone's kids to not have any social contact within 6 feet, wear masks for the rest of their lives, only mega corps allowed to do business, people arrested for disobedience like going to the beach or camping.

They think by supporting this they will receive good ranks in the new world order, but they failed to learn anything from history.
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Old 05-25-2020, 05:04 AM   #66
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Wouldn't it be great if we had a functioning contact tracing system that gave governments, corporations and every AI ever invented from here to eternity acess to everything we do and everyone we come into contact with? Gee. Think of all the protection we'd have with a system like that.
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Old 05-25-2020, 05:25 AM   #67
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Trumpers have nothing. And are barely literate in the first place.

This is why you see them fall back on inane shit like SHOES and orange man bad etc. over and over and over.

Itís all they have. A bit sad, really.
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Old 05-25-2020, 09:55 AM   #68
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Wouldn't it be great if we had a functioning contact tracing system that gave governments, corporations and every AI ever invented from here to eternity acess to everything we do and everyone we come into contact with? Gee. Think of all the protection we'd have with a system like that.
That would be amazing.

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Old 05-25-2020, 10:11 AM   #69
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wait, is OP's avatar supposed to be a meme that's propping up Jeb? Like we should really regret that?
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This is Stasi shit, right here. You're not an American if you go along with this crap. Unbelievable we are even having this discussion.

****ing sad.
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:30 AM   #71
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out of about 330,000,000. not bad really, a little more than the flu, and 40 something % of those deaths were in assisted living. this thing is not near a big a deal as its been made out out to be.
If you extrapolate out the state numbers itís about 45% in assisted living, 35% over 70 not in assisted living, about 5% with some form of a terminal disease. Around 20% of the remaining 15% dying with Covid, not necessarily because of it. So outside of those three groups, which werenít contributing to the economy in large numbers anyway, you have 12,000 dead.

This does pre-suppose that the sheltering in place mitigated those numbers, and it did, but until we start testing for antibodies in controlled groups we wonít know the real mortality rate.
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EU Planning "Vaccination Passport" Since 2018; Report

- “Roadmap on Vaccination” outlines 3 year plan for boosting “vaccine confidence” and advancing “electronic tracking”

A report published by the European Commission in late 2019 reveals that the EU has been looking to increase the scope and power of vaccination programmes since well before the current “pandemic”.

The endpoint of the Roadmap is, among many other things, to introduce a “common vaccination card/passport” for all EU citizens.

This proposal will be appearing before the commission in 2022, with a “feasibility study” set to run from 2019 through 2021 (meaning, as of now, it’s about halfway through).

To underline the point: The “vaccination roadmap” is not an improvised response to the Covid19 pandemic, but rather an ongoing plan with roots going back to 2018, when the EU released a survey of the public’s attitude toward vaccines titled “2018 State of Vaccine Confidence”

On the back of this research, the EU then commissioned a technical report titled “Designing and implementing an immunization information system”, on – among other things – the plausibility of an EU-wide vaccination monitoring system.

In the 3rd quarter of 2019 these reports were all combined into the latest version of the the “Vaccination Roadmap”, a long-term policy plan to spread vaccine “awareness and understanding” whilst counteracting “vaccine myths” and combatting “vaccine hesitancy”.

You can read the entire report here, but below are some of the more concerning highlights [emphasis throughout is ours]:

- “Examine the feasibility of developing a common vaccinationcard/passport for EU citizens“

- “Develop EU guidance for establishing comprehensive electronic immunization information systems for effective monitoring of immunization programmes.”

- “overcome the legal and technical barriers impeding the interoperability of national immunization information systems”

On the 12th September 2019, at the joint EU-WHO “Global Vaccination Summit”, they announced the “10 Actions Towards Vaccination for All”, which cover much of the same ground.

One month later, in October 2019, Event 201 was held.

For those who don’t know, Event 201 was a simulated pandemic exercise focusing on a zoonotic novel coronavirus originating in bats. It was sponsored by Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, the World Economic Forum, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

The result of the simulation was seven key suggestions.

In November of 2019, these suggestions were published as a “call to action”.

One month later, China reported the first cases of Covid19.

To be clear here (and forestall any below-the-line arguments): this is not about vaccines, their effectiveness, safety or lack thereof.

The point is that proposed COVID countermeasures, which have been presented to the public as emergency measures thought up on the fly by panicking institutions, have in fact existed since before the emergence the disease.

They already wanted to monitor your vaccination records and tie that to your passport, introduce mandatory vaccinations and clampdown on “misinformation”. They just didn’t have a reason yet.

This was a situation which required a crisis and, fortuitously, it got one.

The exact ratio of contrivance to happenstance will never be known. What we DO know, at this point, is that Sars-Cov-2 is nothing like the threat originally reported, they admit as much themselves.

We also know they keep churning out the fear anyway.

And, thanks to documents like this, maybe now we’re starting to see why.

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity....endations.html

https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/22/...rt-since-2018/

> Probably all just a series of 'coincidence.'
This is what I said a few days ago...People actually believe that TRACE was conceived, developed and implemented in less than two months? They've been sitting on this concept for at least a few years...they had to make and test the software...develop a training agenda for their agents then actually hire them.

Then you see COVID19 tests laced with the actual virus...and it starts to paint the real picture here.

Hey Small Pox blankets worked back in the day....might as well try this technique again...

I said when this first started...once people's "fog of fear" dissipates and more information comes to light, they will realize they were duped and this was a coordinated effort with an ulterior agenda.

This article shows what the ulterior agenda is....it's right there, in front of their face.

This IS what this is all about....

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