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Old 11-23-2022, 12:18 PM  
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How do you define a sports dynasty and what does this current Chiefs team need to do

Been considering this a bit lately. Generally speaking I’d have considered any sports team that wins three championships in a five-ish year period a true dynasty.

The Patriots have two, obviously, early 2000s and then the mid 2010s. Early 90s Cowboys. 49ers in the 80s and Steelers in the 70s, IIRC.

Then I was considering things and wondering what we’d need to accomplish in order to be labeled a dynasty. We’ve currently got the one Super Bowl win from the 2019 season. It’s now the 2022 season.

We’ve hosted four straight AFCCGs in that timespan as well. Does that factor in at all or is it solely based on Super Bowl wins?

I think it does a bit. For example, if we’re able to win the Super Bowl this year, I think I would consider us a dynasty.

But I don’t consider the 90s Bills a dynasty so clearly at least one or two actual Super Bowl wins is a requirement.

What are your thoughts?
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:15 PM   #76
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This team is locked and loaded for bear.

NOTHING is going to derail this championship run.

Best QB in NFL history
Best HC in NFL history
Best TE in NFL history (and 2 more highly talented TEs behind him)
Deep and very talented WR group with no weak links 1-5
Top 5 OL
Top 5-10 DL (by years end, they will be in conversation for best DL in nfl)
Elite and very young LBers
Elite and very young CBs
Solid safeties
A couple RBs that are hungry and talented
Top 5 punter and kicker

The only team that can beat KC, is KC.
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:45 PM   #77
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This team is locked and loaded for bear.

NOTHING is going to derail this championship run.

Best QB in NFL history
Best HC in NFL history
Best TE in NFL history (and 2 more highly talented TEs behind him)
Deep and very talented WR group with no weak links 1-5
Top 5 OL
Top 5-10 DL (by years end, they will be in conversation for best DL in nfl)
Elite and very young LBers
Elite and very young CBs
Solid safeties
A couple RBs that are hungry and talented
Top 5 punter and kicker

The only team that can beat KC, is KC.

Just don’t talk mean to Matt Ryan.
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:45 PM   #78
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just think about how much fun it is to even have this conversation

five years ago we couldn't buy a home playoff win
This.

This X 10000.

We have the best QB playing in football, arguably the best QB in NFL history. Barring injury, if the next 5 years produce the same results as the last 5 years, I don’t think there will be any doubt he’s the best QB in NFL history.

We have the best TE in the NFL now, certainly 1 of the top 3 TEs in NFL history.

We have a HOF coach. I would say that we have a top 10 coach, maybe even top 5 NFL coach of all time.

Our GM has done a great job of building depth across the team. That happens when we have lots of draft picks and we hit on a fair number of them.*

I don’t care whether this is a dynasty or not. A SB ring this year and I have no idea how you could argue against a dynasty. That would mean: 5 AFCCGs in a row, 3 SBs with 2 rings in 4 years. Those great Steeler teams of the 70s were great for about 5 years. The Cowboys of the early 90s - a few years.

New England’s dominance for 15 years is unprecedented and failure to equal that dominance does not mean we are not a dynasty. The only other team that could be a ‘dynasty’ for so long that I could think of would be SF from the early 80s through Steve Young’s retirement. Out of all of those years, how many SBs did they win? 4 with Joe Cool and 2 with Steve Young. I know Young was the backup for 1 of Montana’s wins so they had 6 SB wins over roughly 15 years.

Green Bay? Great in the early and mid 60s and they were a strong contender with both Favre and Rodgers but how many SBs? 2 wins, 1 with Favre and 1 with Rodgers and that’s it over 20 years with those 2. 2 SBs in the 60s. 4 SBs, then, in their history.

How many teams have never even had this conversation? Rams. Chargers. Bears. Lions. Vikings. Jets. Bills. A number of other teams as well.

There will come a time when I watch football with my great-grandkids and Mahomes and Kelce highlights will come on. They will ask me about my wistful smile and I will tell them that they were magic. I will tell them that words do not describe what it was like to watch them. I will tell them that miraculous throws and 4th quarter comebacks were so routine that they were just taken for granted. I will tell them that Mahomes would be down by 7 points, 10, 14, 17. Didn’t matter. We expected him to win and more often than not, he would.

Enjoy this while it lasts and don’t worry about whether this is a dynasty. In a few years, it will be extremely clear.
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:57 PM   #79
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:19 AM   #80
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Young only won one SB.
You’re right. He won 2 as backup QB behind Montana.
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Old 11-24-2022, 03:12 AM   #81
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Young only won one SB.
He was on a dynasty team.


I think if Cowgirls were considered a dynasty with three Lombardi trophies then I think 3 is the minimum requirement but still need to be a dominate team or contenders for longevity.

Bills could be a dynasty but that sailed wide right.
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Old 11-24-2022, 07:57 AM   #82
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We are not a dynasty. Like it or not we laid an egg vs the Bucs and choked out asses off last year vs the Bungles. Need to clean that stuff up. But we should have won the Dee Ford offsides year
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Old 11-24-2022, 08:45 AM   #83
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Modern Day NFL Dynasties:

60’s Packers: 5 Championship’s in 8 years.

70’s Steelers: 4 Super Bowl Championship’s in 6 years.

80’s 49ers: 4 Super Bowl Championship’s in 9 years.

90’s Cowboys: 3 Super Bowl Championship’s in 4 years.

00’s Patriots: 3 Super Bowl Championship’s in 4 years.

10’s Patriots: 3 Super Bowl Championship’s in 5 years.
Whether we get classified as a dynasty or not, if we win one more super bowl and continue to make afc championship games I think the chiefs will be labeled the team of the 20s
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Old 11-24-2022, 08:57 AM   #84
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Whether we get classified as a dynasty or not, if we win one more super bowl and continue to make afc championship games I think the chiefs will be labeled the team of the 20s

They are definitely the leading contender.
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3 Superbowl titles in 4 years is what I consider "Dynasty".

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Old 11-24-2022, 09:19 AM   #86
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Chiefs need 2 SB's in the the next 4 years to be considered a dynasty. Don't know if it's been mentioned but I'd also consider the A's and Reds of the 70's dynasties.
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Old 11-24-2022, 09:31 AM   #87
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NWMO football and basketball have had dynasties.

I think it will be very hard in the NFL to do what the Pats have done.
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So listen, I 100% fully think KC is winning the Super Bowl this year. Now that we’ve got that out of the way. I can’t be the only guy that gets a little nervous from time to time thinking about this whole dynasty deal. It really depends on the next couple years. I guess that Cincinnati meltdown is still on my mind. The Dee Ford offsides penalty. We absolutely MUST take full advantage of the Patrick Mahomes area. Hosting 4 straight AFC Championship games, we should have 3-4 straight trips to the big dance to go with it. The Patriots won so many super bowls and are considered a dynasty because they won and took advantage of nearly every opportunity.
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We are not a dynasty. Like it or not we laid an egg vs the Bucs and choked out asses off last year vs the Bungles. Need to clean that stuff up. But we should have won the Dee Ford offsides year
Yeah, we would have crushed the Rams if Dee isn't lined up offsides. We should have won 2 SB's and lost one. But, that's an alternate reality.

We had a meltdown in the 2nd half against the Bengals Have an O-line meltdown in another chance.

Winning another SB this year doesn't make us a dynasty. We need to win 2 of the next 3 because of the space between our first one and the next one to be a "Dynasty".

But, from where we were a decade ago to now, lets be clear, we all should be high on cocaine happy with our Chiefs and our future.
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