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Old 10-19-2017, 10:41 PM  
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Let's talk about reasons to be optimistic
I know it's easy to want to put this loss on Bob Sutton, the NFL, officiating, etc - and those may all be valid points.

Instead of dwelling on all the negatives, what positives come out of tonight's game?

I can think of a few.

1. This offense has some real weapons. Both for now, and in the future. Hunt, Hill, and Kelce are stars. They should make the transition that much smoother for Mahomes (hopefully starting next season)

2. The Chiefs are still 5-2, and 1-1 in the division. The loss tonight sucks, but I don't see the Raiders coming into Arrowhead later this season and pulling another upset. The NFL truly seems to lack a dominant team this year, which provides me some optimism come playoff time.

3. Butker has been fantastic. This guy has the look of a star.

Anything else to add?
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:58 PM   #31
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To be honest if Alex wanted to salt this one away he could have gotten seven instead of three or not given the ball back in the fourth quarter.
To be honest we shouldn't even have been in that situation if the defense didn't cough up over 400 yards in the air.. 30 points is more than enough to win a game in the NFL. The offense showed up one year too late
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Mahomes could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs a season and we will still win 12 games and lose on the first round. Why? Because Chiefs.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:01 PM   #33
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To be honest if Alex wanted to salt this one away he could have gotten seven instead of three or not given the ball back in the fourth quarter.
Can't fault him for the R2P2 offense on that last drive and a receiver not picking up the hot route. He played his ass off today.

But again - it's the Chiefs. It just doesn't ****ing matter. Mahomes could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs a season and we will still win 12 games and lose in the first round.

You want optimism? You danced around it bit didn't quite get there. The great news is that there's no sense at all in EVER expecting anything from this franchise. Ever. So just watch them like a reality television show where the outcome is wholly immaterial.

True optimism comes from the knowledge that there's really no point in giving a shit. They're losers and losers find ways to fail. Best defense in football? Steve ****ing Bono is your QB. Amazing offense? Lemme tell you about Mike Mazlowski. Your game managing QB becomes a ****ing God among men? Watch me kill your all world safety, age your LBs in dog years and convince your superstar CB that social justice is more worthy of his time than coverage responsibilities.

Pat Mahomes will fail here, too. Why? Because Chiefs. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. And that reality is, in and of itself, cause for optimism.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:03 PM   #34
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Our offense will win us a lot of games so we will make the playoffs and if our D improves somehow we have a shot at the SB but I don't see how our D can improve in any drastic way. The talent isn't there wout Berry.

We can blitz more but I don't think we have the CBs or safeties to be very good at it.
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Can't fault him for the R2P2 offense on that last drive and a receiver not picking up the hot route. He played his ass off today.

But again - it's the Chiefs. It just doesn't ****ing matter. Mahomes could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs a season and we will still win 12 games and lose on the first round.

You want optimism? You danced around it bit didn't quite get there. The great news is that there's no sense at all in EVER expecting anything from this franchise. Ever. So just watch them like a reality television show where the outcome is wholly immaterial.

True optimism comes from the knowledge that there's really no point in giving a shit. They're losers and losers find ways to fail. Best defense in football? Steve ****ing Bono is your QB. Amazing offense? Lemme tell you about Mike Mazlowski. Your game managing QB becomes a ****ing God among men? Watch me kill your all world safety, age your LBs in dog years and convince your superstar CB that social justice is more worthy of his time than coverage responsibilities.

Pat Mahomes will fail here to. Why? Because Chiefs. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. And that reality is, in and of itself, cause for optimism.
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Our offense will win us a lot of games so we will make the playoffs and if our D improves somehow we have a shot at the SB but I don't see how our D can improve in any drastic way. The talent isn't there wout Berry.

We can blitz more but I don't think we have the CBs or safeties to be very good at it.
Sutton won't change a damned thing. I'm sure he doesn't think anything is broken.
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Can't fault him for the R2P2 offense on that last drive and a receiver not picking up the hot route. He played his ass off today.

But again - it's the Chiefs. It just doesn't ****ing matter. Mahomes could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs a season and we will still win 12 games and lose on the first round.

You want optimism? You danced around it bit didn't quite get there. The great news is that there's no sense at all in EVER expecting anything from this franchise. Ever. So just watch them like a reality television show where the outcome is wholly immaterial.

True optimism comes from the knowledge that there's really no point in giving a shit. They're losers and losers find ways to fail. Best defense in football? Steve ****ing Bono is your QB. Amazing offense? Lemme tell you about Mike Mazlowski. Your game managing QB becomes a ****ing God among men? Watch me kill your all world safety, age your LBs in dog years and convince your superstar CB that social justice is more worthy of his time than coverage responsibilities.

Pat Mahomes will fail here, too. Why? Because Chiefs. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. And that reality is, in and of itself, cause for optimism.
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Can't fault him for the R2P2 offense on that last drive and a receiver not picking up the hot route. He played his ass off today.

But again - it's the Chiefs. It just doesn't ****ing matter. Mahomes could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs a season and we will still win 12 games and lose on the first round.

You want optimism? You danced around it bit didn't quite get there. The great news is that there's no sense at all in EVER expecting anything from this franchise. Ever. So just watch them like a reality television show where the outcome is wholly immaterial.

True optimism comes from the knowledge that there's really no point in giving a shit. They're losers and losers find ways to fail. Best defense in football? Steve ****ing Bono is your QB. Amazing offense? Lemme tell you about Mike Mazlowski. Your game managing QB becomes a ****ing God among men? Watch me kill your all world safety, age your LBs in dog years and convince your superstar CB that social justice is more worthy of his time than coverage responsibilities.

Pat Mahomes will fail here, too. Why? Because Chiefs. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. And that reality is, in and of itself, cause for optimism.
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Can't fault him for the R2P2 offense on that last drive and a receiver not picking up the hot route. He played his ass off today.

But again - it's the Chiefs. It just doesn't ****ing matter. Mahomes could throw for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs a season and we will still win 12 games and lose on the first round.

You want optimism? You danced around it bit didn't quite get there. The great news is that there's no sense at all in EVER expecting anything from this franchise. Ever. So just watch them like a reality television show where the outcome is wholly immaterial.

True optimism comes from the knowledge that there's really no point in giving a shit. They're losers and losers find ways to fail. Best defense in football? Steve ****ing Bono is your QB. Amazing offense? Lemme tell you about Mike Mazlowski. Your game managing QB becomes a ****ing God among men? Watch me kill your all world safety, age your LBs in dog years and convince your superstar CB that social justice is more worthy of his time than coverage responsibilities.

Pat Mahomes will fail here, too. Why? Because Chiefs. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. And that reality is, in and of itself, cause for optimism.
You just out Clay'd Clay. Getting to the real truth instead of jumping on the reerun bandwagon on a week to week basis
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If contending teams didn't have issues, they'd all go 16-0. It's about finding a balance, and masking the weaknesses to the best of your ability. I don't have much faith in Sutton at this point, but perhaps getting Nelson back, (and MAYBE Hali), will make a difference.
I do have faith that Nelson might be better than Mitchell. I am not as optimistic about Tamba. I do continue to wonder why we made a second round pick this year if Kpass is going to have the same view as Mahomes. The real issue is rushing 3 and believing Murray can cover ANY TE in the league. Sutton is just tired and sad.
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Three things matter. First, we had a six point lead with four minutes left and Andy Reid had to decide whether to put the game in the hands of the offense or the defense. He idiotically chose the defense. Second, Clark Bar is okay with this. Third, Chiefs fans are okay with Andy. Enjoy your tailgate, peasants.
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He's been one of the few bright spots, for sure. But I think we all know that this probably isn't the real Alex Smith, and that he's going to come back down to earth.
We've been saying that all year and now the season is almost halfway over. At what point do we recalibrate our expectations? Honest question
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Peters stood for the anthem. That’s one thing to be optimistic I guess
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