New Apple Tablet

[dirk digler]

Cool stuff. On Engadget live right now

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/l...est&refresh=30

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

You're old.. it happens..

I am talking about being able to run "real" applications over the "cloud".. it's definitely moving that way but we aren't there yet. I'm not talking about just storage.

Sounds a lot like a dumb terminal.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Sounds a lot like a dumb terminal.

SEE! I told you you were old!

Not exactly a dumb terminal (since they will have significant local storage and processing power)... but getting closer to that model than the current one for sure.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I am talking about being able to REPLACE your desktop.. whether you plan on it or not.. we are headed toward being able to do so.. if you choose to.. my point being that we are still a ways off.

I get you now. I don't know that I'd ever want to replace my desktop.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Silock

I get you now. I don't know that I'd ever want to replace my desktop.

I see it more of a hybrid model... sort of like what the Atrix is but actually good. Who knows at this point.. I am just talking about capacity.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by BCD

The simple fact that a tablet has far less storage and no ROM drive is enough to tell me its far less useful than a laptop. I'm sure its fun to use, but no way could it replace a laptop/desktop.

Nope, that's why I have a laptop that work provides and a desktop at home. The tablet is "fun", but there's also utility due to it's mobility. In addition, my kids are already spending time with a number of "learning" apps, which is a positive. Does it cost too much? Well, I guess that's a matter of opinion.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Silock

Hmm... perhaps Apple IS right for you, after all.

But in all seriousness, Bob Dole is right. Storage ON the device is irrelevant, really. I stream all my movies and music to the device, keep my documents on the cloud (google docs mostly), and use Goodreader for all my other file needs.

Hell, if you want, you can play WoW on an iPad, and it works reasonably well.

My mom's getting one as a belated Christmas present, and she's having a hard time understanding why the 16Gb model is fine for her needs.

No, FaceTime does not use up storage, nor does streaming video.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by BCD

The simple fact that a tablet has far less storage and no ROM drive is enough to tell me its far less useful than a laptop. I'm sure its fun to use, but no way could it replace a laptop/desktop.

Who the f uses a ROM drive anymore.

Might as well complain it doesn't take 5.25" as well.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I'm not anti-apple at all, I am anti-iPad.

The smartphone market is different but the same REASONS that iPhone is losing market share there will apply with tablets... more choice, cheaper hardware.

Apple has considerable economies of scale in the market, and will so for the foreseeable future. Not sure how phAndroid manufacturers undercut the iPad, except by taking miniscule profit margins or selling them at a loss.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Pittsie

Apple has considerable economies of scale in the market, and will so for the foreseeable future. Not sure how phAndroid manufacturers undercut the iPad, except by taking miniscule profit margins or selling them at a loss.

HAHAHAHA... yes Apple has economies of scale in a market where NO ONE else was using touch screens, their ARM chip, etc etc... when you have 30 manufacturers using Nvidia Tegra 3 chips, XXX brand touch screens, etc etc the prices drop across the board.

That is a ridiculously short sighted argument that I have seen bandied about by writers for financial trades who obviously don't understand the industry.

Yes, it would be a valid point if each manufacturer made a proprietary device like the iPad.. but they won't be.. they will all be sharing the same components .. giving them a huge advantage once enough of them get in the game. (this fall)

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Pittsie

Who the f uses a ROM drive anymore.

I buy CDs. I rip them.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

HAHAHAHA... yes Apple has economies of scale in a market where NO ONE else was using touch screens, their ARM chip, etc etc... when you have 30 manufacturers using Nvidia Tegra 3 chips, XXX brand touch screens, etc etc the prices drop across the board.

That is a ridiculously short sighted argument that I have seen bandied about by writers for financial trades who obviously don't understand the industry.

Yes, it would be a valid point if each manufacturer made a proprietary device like the iPad.. but they won't be.. they will all be sharing the same components .. giving them a huge advantage once enough of them get in the game. (this fall)

All of the upcoming phAndroid tablets are using the same hardware. Really??

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...?tag=mncol;txt

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by BCD

I buy CDs. I rip them.

2004 likes your style.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Pittsie

All of the upcoming phAndroid tablets are using the same hardware. Really??

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...?tag=mncol;txt

no, but don't be obtuse. Just like all PCs don't use the same hardware.. yet they share enough to drive the prices down to where Macs had to start using PC hardware to keep up...

They will likely share 2 MAYBE 3 different chips, mostly the same memory and with touchscreens scale is a different issue that won't apply. Again, don't be purposely obtuse for the sake of the debate.

The Apple has "economy of scale" argument is one that people in the industry laugh at. It would take ONE serious Chinese manufacturer to blow that up. Go back a few pages and read the article I posted by Dvorak. He's is one of the few people quoted who has the chops in the industry(25 years as a tech columnist) and whose opinion should be trusted.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

no, but don't be obtuse. Just like all PCs don't use the same hardware.. yet they share enough to drive the prices down to where Macs had to start using PC hardware to keep up...

They will likely share 2 MAYBE 3 different chips, mostly the same memory and with touchscreens scale is a different issue that won't apply. Again, don't be purposely obtuse for the sake of the debate.

The Apple has "economy of scale" argument is one that people in the industry laugh at. It would take ONE serious Chinese manufacturer to blow that up. Go back a few pages and read the article I posted by Dvorak. He's is one of the few people quoted who has the chops in the industry(25 years as a tech columnist) and whose opinion should be trusted.

Repost it, or give me post number, and I'll take a look.

[The_Doctor10]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-duo/pd

Fair play... It looks 'interesting'. It also looks really frickin gimmicky. All those moving parts in a field that's supposed to not have them. And anyone who'd rather spend 500 bucks on that over an iPad really isn't paying attention to product quality...