Chiefs 2018 Free Agents - Page 24

Couch-Potato · 01-10-2018, 09:52 AM

Who are you letting walk/cutting/retiring?

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**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2018, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

True, but the the guy who did that isn't the Gm anymore. Maybe Veach doesn't care for those players?

That's complete speculation with no proof.

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I'd prefer not to sign Wilson but wouldn't be surprised if they do.

Maybe a 2 year, $3 million dollar deal but the guy has been absolutely incapable of playing through a full 16 game season, he's not a game breaker, he generally drops balls that actually would change the outcome of games and he's not a Special Teamer.

He's averaged 300 yards and 1.4 TD's a year.

If Veach can't find that kind of production in Day 3 draftee, heads should roll.

RunKC · 02-15-2018, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

True, but the the guy who did that isn't the Gm anymore. Maybe Veach doesn't care for those players?

I'd prefer not to sign Wilson but wouldn't be surprised if they do.

They found Wilson as an undrafted FA. I think they can find another quality athlete to replicate what Wilson has done.

No reason to overpay when you have Conley coming up.

O.city · 02-15-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's complete speculation with no proof.

Maybe a 2 year, $3 million dollar deal but the guy has been absolutely incapable of playing through a full 16 game season, he's not a game breaker, he generally drops balls that actually would change the outcome of games and he's not a Special Teamer.

He's averaged 300 yards and 1.4 TD's a year.

If Veach can't find that kind of production in Day 3 draftee, heads should roll.

Veach didn't trade up for those guys. Thats not speculation. Basing a decision on something the previous regime did doesn't really matter anymore is all I'm saying. Trading up for those guys wouldnt look like the right idea if you re sign Wilson if it were the same regime doing it. But it's a different GM. I don't think those moves will influence that decision.

In this past few years offensive setup, the 4th guy wasn't ever going to have big stats. Behind Kelce, Maclin, Hill, the RB's etc, plus with Smith at QB, I don't think it mattered who was there.

I don't figure they'll sign Wilson back, but I also don't think he'll get near the $ some think elsewhere.

O.city · 02-15-2018, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

They found Wilson as an undrafted FA. I think they can find another quality athlete to replicate what Wilson has done.

No reason to overpay when you have Conley coming up.

At this point, how do we pencil Conley in for anything? He's been pretty meh.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Veach didn't trade up for those guys. Thats not speculation. Basing a decision on something the previous regime did doesn't really matter anymore is all I'm saying. Trading up for those guys wouldnt look like the right idea if you re sign Wilson if it were the same regime doing it. But it's a different GM. I don't think those moves will influence that decision.

Veach was in the building and was the Director of College Scouting.

It would be weird as hell if Veach, the head scout who's scouted the guys the Chiefs moved up to draft, wasn't on board.

I suppose it's possible but still really damn weird.

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Originally Posted by O.city

In this past few years offensive setup, the 4th guy wasn't ever going to have big stats.

I disagree. Wilson had plenty of opportunities to put up much bigger numbers but nearly always, failed.

He failed to give up his body, to make the tough catch and to grind it out during injuries.

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't figure they'll sign Wilson back, but I also don't think he'll get near the $ some think elsewhere.

He's Fool's Gold. If some GM is dumb enough to give him $3 million or more per year, I just hope it's a Division Rival.

O.city · 02-15-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Veach was in the building and was the Director of College Scouting.

It would be weird as hell if Veach, the head scout who's scouted the guys the Chiefs moved up to draft, wasn't on board.

I suppose it's possible but still really damn weird.

I disagree. Wilson had plenty of opportunities to put up much bigger numbers but nearly always, failed.

He failed to give up his body, to make the tough catch and to grind it out during injuries.

He's Fool's Gold. If some GM is dumb enough to give him $3 million or more per year, I just hope it's a Division Rival.

I dunno, seemed to make quite a few tough catches this year that led to points and wins. The Redskins game comes to mind.

But also contract year I guess so who knows.

RunKC · 02-15-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

At this point, how do we pencil Conley in for anything? He's been pretty meh.

This offense literally went to shit right after he got hurt and I’d rather see what 2018 looks like with Conley playing with Mahomes.

I think the Chiefs can get a mid round receiver if they don’t want Wilson back.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2018, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I dunno, seemed to make quite a few tough catches this year that led to points and wins. The Redskins game comes to mind.

But also contract year I guess so who knows.

Here's my biggest problem with Wilson:

Against the Bills: 7 Targets, 3 catches for 36 yards
Against the Jets: 5 Targets, 3 catches for 27 yards
Against the Dolphins: 8 targets, 3 catches for 36 yards.

The guy just disappears.

O.city · 02-15-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This offense literally went to shit right after he got hurt and I’d rather see what 2018 looks like with Conley playing with Mahomes.

I think the Chiefs can get a mid round receiver if they don’t want Wilson back.

Maybe, but what did he really do to keep the offense going? He wasn't putting up the numbers and I'm not sure its likely that other teams are so afraid of him he's pulling coverages and such.

I dunno, hopefully he takes off but he's always seemed more hyped than substance to me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2018, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This offense literally went to shit right after he got hurt and I’d rather see what 2018 looks like with Conley playing with Mahomes.

I think the Chiefs can get a mid round receiver if they don’t want Wilson back.

I just hope that Chesson and Kemp make huge strides this offseason because if may take a while for Conley to become 100%.

I have zero faith in Robinson.

O.city · 02-15-2018, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Here's my biggest problem with Wilson:

Against the Bills: 7 Targets, 3 catches for 36 yards
Against the Jets: 5 Targets, 3 catches for 27 yards
Against the Dolphins: 8 targets, 3 catches for 36 yards.

The guy just disappears.

I don't necessarily remember those specific games and don't want to comment on the catches vs targets without any knowledge.

He's not ever going to be a centerpiece to an offense and wwould likely be easy ish to replace so I'd probably move on, but he made some good plays for the Chiefs and developed as an UDFA.

O.city · 02-15-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I just hope that Chesson and Kemp make huge strides this offseason because if may take a while for Conley to become 100%.

I have zero faith in Robinson.

This may be the reason they end up keeping Wilson IMO.

If Conley isn't 100% and the others are a bit of a long shot to do that much this early.

I'd rather they put Robinson in more but apparently we differ there.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-15-2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Maybe, but what did he really do to keep the offense going? He wasn't putting up the numbers and I'm not sure its likely that other teams are so afraid of him he's pulling coverages and such.

I dunno, hopefully he takes off but he's always seemed more hyped than substance to me.

Conley came up with some huge 3rd downs before injury.

He averaged nearly 16 yards a catch, which was much better than his 2016 campaign and was on pace for about 600 yards this season.

The Chiefs were 5-0 with him and 5-7 without him.

Red Dawg · 02-15-2018, 12:45 PM

We don't need Wilson. Good guy with high energy but he can only play slot.

MIAdragon · 02-15-2018, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This offense literally went to shit right after he got hurt and I’d rather see what 2018 looks like with Conley playing with Mahomes.

I think the Chiefs can get a mid round receiver if they don’t want Wilson back.

Correlation doesn’t mean causation.

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