Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 150

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

**TribalElder** · 11-18-2018, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

The reason they arent touching it is has all kinds of power-struggle worms attached to it. This is Chunt's contract...he went over Dorsey's head and it's an absolute turd. Quite possibly the biggest bust in modern NFL history...

Had Dorsey brokered this clunker...they would be all over it.

This is all after supporting and paying out throughout the battle vs cancer

Eric Berry lets go it’s time

DTVietnam · 11-18-2018, 12:47 AM

this is a good character guy who fought back from cancer..Im sure he wants to be on that field..doesnt come across as a sit back and collect money kind of guy. .even off the field he's still an asset to our team. .

patience...

he'll be nice to have in the playoffs and if not..then its on the Chiefs for that shitty contract

heres what Dee Ford said this week

Chiefs linebacker Dee Ford, in an interview that aired on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Friday, said he didn't know when Berry would return but provided hope that it would happen at some point this season.

"I know one thing -- I just did a very groundbreaking core workout with EB yesterday; me, him and Steven Nelson," Ford said. "We break bread every day and make each other better as players and as friends. That man has taken a step every day of his life to get better. He wants to be on the field, so if he's not on the field, it's for a reason. So everybody can get over that. He'll be back."

**BossChief** · 11-18-2018, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

This is all after supporting and paying out throughout the battle vs cancer

Eric Berry lets go it’s time

That’s the part that’s tough...for me.

Any other team would have used the NFI list for Berry while he fought cancer so they would have the cap space. KC surrendered 5 m in cap space because they treated Eric like family.

They are paying Eric full salary the last 2 seasons when This is a “deformity”...not something caused by an injury playing for KC. (At least from what I’ve read) and KC is again paying full salary for him because he’s bing treated like family.

Any other team treats this like a business and puts Eric on the NFI list and uses that cap space to addd a safety.

Titty Meat · 11-18-2018, 01:07 AM

Looks like Bosa is playing tomorrow. I assume Berey will be back after the bye. This thread will be jokes and none of the games missed will matter if he helps bring that parade down Main Street in Feburary.

BlackOp · 11-18-2018, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Looks like Bosa is playing tomorrow. I assume Berey will be back after the bye. This thread will be jokes and none of the games missed will matter if he helps bring that parade down Main Street in Feburary.

Or if a third string Safety allows Gronk a late play to win in the AFCCG...while Berry watches with sweat pants on.

It might well end up being inconsequential...but right now, it has prevented KC from adding someone who could have helped.

Chiefs were going to restructure some contracts to get Earl Thomas on a rental...it doesn't get talked about but that doesn't seem like a move you make if you expect Berry to come back this season.

Berry wont retire and KC cant cut him...the 2019 cap hit would be the same. If Berry retires, he forfeits his 2019 $16 mil guarantee...and he sure as shit isnt going to do that.They can just hope he plays at some point before 2020. That is how bad Chunt's contract was...

Titty Meat · 11-18-2018, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Or if a third string Safety allows Gronk a late play to win in the AFCCG...while Berry watches with sweat pants on.

It might well end up being inconsequential...but right now, it has prevented KC from adding someone who could have helped.

Chiefs were going to restructure some contracts to get Earl Thomas on a rental...it doesn't get talked about but that doesn't seem like a move you make if you expect Berry to come back this season.

Berry wont retire and KC cant cut him...the 2019 cap hit would be the same. If Berry retires, he forfeits his 2019 $16 mil guarantee...and he sure as shit isnt going to do that.They can just hope he plays at some point before 2020. That is how bad Chunt's contract was...

This board was trying to make Josh Shaw sound like a good player when we signed him

**TribalElder** · 11-18-2018, 02:41 AM

I need an agent like berrys agent

SUPERPAID!!!

Flying High D · 11-18-2018, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

I need an agent like berrys agent

SUPERPAID!!!

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Flying High D · 11-18-2018, 06:28 AM

I think Chunt is so out of touch with reality and the value of a dollar, that this absolutely mikes no difference to him. He’s filthy rich.

GloryDayz · 11-18-2018, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

This deal will make the nfl network top 10 worst contract deals of all time countdown list

Which is nice

Should be #1 on that list.

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ThaVirus · 11-18-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I heard he can run full speed on a treadmill now and is getting really close to being able to practice. I’ll be shocked if he’s not practicing after the bye and playing in the Ravens game.

Well that's interesting, if true.

Only remains to be seen whether or not the rapid change of direction required on the field would cause the pain to flare.

GloryDayz · 11-19-2018, 08:20 PM

Well he's not too ****ed up to waste a ticket to L.A., what a mother****er he is. HE IS A CANCER!!! The Hobo looking mother****er needs to be gone tomorrow, he's so ****ing useless.

EDIT: For having a heel too sore to play on he sure can stand around a lot. Maybe L.A. can pick up his useless ass.

OKchiefs · 11-20-2018, 12:37 PM

Time is running out for S Eric Berry to play this season but the Chiefs have kept him on their active roster in anticipation that he would return at some point. The Chiefs have yet to commit to his return but remain hopeful it could happen after this week's bye. "If he feels comfortable and the docs are good with it and he's goo with it, then we'll start easing him in,'' coach Andy Reid said.

Adam Teicher, ESPN Staff Writer
6m ago

So a December return isn't even a given. We're still waiting on Berry to feel "comfortable".

O.city · 11-20-2018, 12:38 PM

Shit I just posted this in a differne threat.

Halfcan · 11-20-2018, 12:43 PM

A healthy Berry in there instead of Parker would be huge.

Cut Scrandrick and use the 2 weeks to give someone else his reps.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2116899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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DTVietnam Veteran Join Date: May 2018 Casino cash: $9520400	this is a good character guy who fought back from cancer..Im sure he wants to be on that field..doesnt come across as a sit back and collect money kind of guy. .even off the field he's still an asset to our team. . patience... he'll be nice to have in the playoffs and if not..then its on the Chiefs for that shitty contract heres what Dee Ford said this week Chiefs linebacker Dee Ford, in an interview that aired on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Friday, said he didn't know when Berry would return but provided hope that it would happen at some point this season. "I know one thing -- I just did a very groundbreaking core workout with EB yesterday; me, him and Steven Nelson," Ford said. "We break bread every day and make each other better as players and as friends. That man has taken a step every day of his life to get better. He wants to be on the field, so if he's not on the field, it's for a reason. So everybody can get over that. He'll be back."
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