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Old 01-02-2013, 02:41 PM  
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*.* 2013 General Fitness Thread *.*

Welcome to 2013! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

**From the 2012 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:32 AM   #1036
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Well the reason that Sprint 8 interests me is because I absolutely despise long distance running. 20 minutes of running is doable.....and I totally realize that it's going to be hard as shit. I wonder if I should just ease myself into it. Like cut the sprints down at first or add in a little longer rest time in between.
The nice thing about it is that it becomes more demanding as you get better at it. Running your fastest is different for everyone depending on your level of fitness.

The downside is that you may not be able to sprint 8 times when you start. If you try to jog 5k, you might get winded and have to stop. With sprints, you damned near keel over.

It's like drinking shots versus beer. You might get the same amount of alcohol, but it's a lot harder to pace yourself with beer than with shots.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:32 AM   #1037
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How many times a week were you doing Sprint 8?
3, usually
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:35 AM   #1038
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if pestil lost about 25 - he'd literally be batting off the ladies. no homo
Pretty sure I wouldn't be batting off the ladies. My wife on the other hand would be.
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3, usually
Maybe I'll start off with the Sprint 8 then. After my body adjusts....I can try and add in a couple days of weight training.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:40 AM   #1040
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Maybe I'll start off with the Sprint 8 then. After my body adjusts....I can try and add in a couple days of weight training.
Let me know how it goes. I literally started getting zits and even some "backne" after a few weeks. After reading up on it, I found that it raises natural HGH production by over 500%. After basically going through puberty again, I believe it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:44 AM   #1041
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Let me know how it goes. I literally started getting zits and even some "backne" after a few weeks. After reading up on it, I found that it raises natural HGH production by over 500%. After basically going through puberty again, I believe it.
Oh that sounds like ****ing fun. Can't wait to go through all of that shit again.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:42 AM   #1042
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My last day of officiating for the summer is tonight, so I think I'll start seeing my lifts increase just from less stress mentally and physically doing that 3 or 4 nights a week. I started Madcow on Monday and was a bit surprised by the toll this summer took on the lifts. A good starting point though I guess.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:49 AM   #1043
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Was at school yesterday for a work day, and we had sack lunches catered by this delicious bakery. I grabbed one sack (chicken salad sandwich on cranberry bread, bag of chips, pickle, cookie) and ate it. There were sacks left over at the end of lunch, so I grabbed another of the same thing and ate all of it.

All day after lunch, I felt like a fat **** because I'm hitting the beach in two weeks, and I just ate enough food for two people. To punish myself, I cooked a fantastic meal for the family which I skipped, then went out and ran 800 yards worth of sprints in hot weather. Took kids bike riding as it cooled off(meaning I chased them on foot while they rode). Skipped supper, breakfast, and lunch today. Went to gym and did my normal workout during lunchtime.

Will hit some baked chicken breasts tonight to break my 30 hour fast. Still not even that hungry, though I'm definitely looking forward to eating.
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Old 07-10-2013, 11:51 AM   #1044
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I've done two intermittent fasts the past two days ~12 hours-ish.

But, goodness, I couldn't imagine doing a 30 hour fast.

Wow.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:02 PM   #1045
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Which would help a fat guy better? Sprint8 or Couch 2 5k? I'm 6' 245 lbs and it's been a while since I've worked out on a regular basis.
Personally, I would just clean the diet up and hit the weights HARD. 4 days a week heavy training and 1-2 days of hill sprints or whatever hiit you like. You can get pretty damn lean from just hitting the weights and not ****ing around in the kitchen. I would add the cardio/hiit when fat loss starts stalling, but thats just me. I tend to lean out pretty quick when I start taking the carbs out of my first 2 meals of the day and keep them around workout.
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Personally, I would just clean the diet up and hit the weights HARD. 4 days a week heavy training and 1-2 days of hill sprints or whatever hiit you like. You can get pretty damn lean from just hitting the weights and not ****ing around in the kitchen. I would add the cardio/hiit when fat loss starts stalling, but thats just me. I tend to lean out pretty quick when I start taking the carbs out of my first 2 meals of the day and keep them around workout.
Here's the way I look at it... You see a lot of guys who can lift a lot of weight but are still fat. You don't see many fat guys running marathons or doing sprints.
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Here's the way I look at it... You see a lot of guys who can lift a lot of weight but are still fat. You don't see many fat guys running marathons or doing sprints.
Bingo.

Some of the big guys at my gym couldn't run to the end of their block. Most of them actually.
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Here's the way I look at it... You see a lot of guys who can lift a lot of weight but are still fat. You don't see many fat guys running marathons or doing sprints.
Some people are perfectly content being fat and strong, some are fine being 150lbs with abs. It all depends on what YOU want. My suggestion to him was to focus on lifting heavy and cleaning the diet up. I started with very similar stats to him, 6-1 235-240ish, and got down to 200 from lifting almost every day and doing hill sprints 1-2x week. Then I started adding size and now im back up to 220ish and will continue to try and gain. Do i have ripped abs? nope, but im definitely not soft and felt pretty anorexic when close to 200lbs. The fat comes off pretty damn easy once you have a nice base of muscle to work with. This is why it will be easy for Lewdog to lean out if he so chooses.

Like I said it all depends on what YOUR goals are and I only suggested what worked for me, since we had similar stats.
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I just turned 35...started working on getting in shape a little a year ago. Since then, I'm down 25 pounds or so (guessing that I've added about 5 pounds of muscle and dropped 30 of fat). As of this morning, I'm about 3 pounds heavier than when I graduated high school.

I've still got a tiny bit of flab on my obliques that I'd like to get rid of, and I think that dropping those last few pounds to get back to my age 18 weight will pretty much take care of it.

My plan has been to focus on weight loss while mixing in some strength training to build muscle until I get to my target weight and then shifting to strength training (pushups, kettle balls, possibly some limited weight lifting, etc.). The thought process being that it's going to be easier to add muscle than to drop weight. (I know that adding muscle helps burn fat, but I've been focusing mostly on cardio).

I would rather be lean with less muscle (silock) than have huge muscles with some extra cushion through my core (lewdog)...just personal preference. Should I keep doing what I've been doing until I reach my target weight, or am I never going to lose the little love handles until I focus more on building muscle?

Given my current track, I figure that I should be able to lose the last few pounds by the end of summer. Winter weather is going to make it difficult for me to do cardio, so I'm kind of trying to get in as much as possible while the weather allows it and strength train in the winter.

Am I totally off base here? Am I going to have a harder time than I think adding muscle? Is it actually easier to drop excess weight than to add five more pounds of muscle?

I'm thinking that I would like to get to 155 pounds before working to add 5 pounds of muscle to get back to 160. I weighed 158.5 this morning (that number just sounds incredibly tiny...wow...it's amazing how little we actually weigh without all the excess fat that we just get accustomed to carrying around).

This thread seems to be dominated by the iron pumpers (I don't mean that as a pejorative at all), so I think I know what the answers will be, but I'm still interested in getting some different perspectives.
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Some people are perfectly content being fat and strong, some are fine being 150lbs with abs. It all depends on what YOU want. My suggestion to him was to focus on lifting heavy and cleaning the diet up. I started with very similar stats to him, 6-1 235-240ish, and got down to 200 from lifting almost every day and doing hill sprints 1-2x week. Then I started adding size and now im back up to 220ish and will continue to try and gain. Do i have ripped abs? nope, but im definitely not soft and felt pretty anorexic when close to 200lbs. The fat comes off pretty damn easy once you have a nice base of muscle to work with. This is why it will be easy for Lewdog to lean out if he so chooses.

Like I said it all depends on what YOUR goals are and I only suggested what worked for me, since we had similar stats.
I'm not saying one way is better than the other...just explaining why I chose to focus on cardio first. I feel like it's easier to add muscle than lose weight, especially as you get older.

If I have a bunch of muscle under a bunch of fat, I'm not really doing my body any favors in terms of general health nor do I look good at the pool.

Running WILL burn fat. Sprinting WILL build muscle. Lifting WILL build muscle, but it's not necessarily going to make you lean.
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