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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-17-2012, 02:55 PM   #76
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He is a ****ing idiot.
That's putting it nicely.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:55 PM   #77
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Because taking some elses stats and plugging in Bowes is evidence.
Do you understand how logic works?

The Chiefs don't throw the ball very much, so Bowe is targeted less than guys like Roddy White.

Logic follows that if the Chiefs threw the ball more, Bowe would have more targets....and therefore produce even better numbers, assuming he maintains the same rate of catch percentage and yards per catch.

Cliffs: If Bowe played in an offense that threw the ball around a bit, instead of being 29th in the league in pass attempts, he would have monster ****ing numbers.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:00 PM   #78
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Do you understand how logic works?

The Chiefs don't throw the ball very much, so Bowe is targeted less than guys like Roddy White.

Logic follows that if the Chiefs threw the ball more, Bowe would have more targets....and therefore produce even better numbers, assuming he maintains the same rate of catch percentage and yards per catch.

Cliffs: If Bowe played in an offense that threw the ball around a bit, instead of being 29th in the league in pass attempts, he would have monster ****ing numbers.
The guy has been a Top 10 WR in yardage over his career and Top 6 in scoring - all while being handicapped by the QB and the play calling.

He's an elite WR as he stands.

Imagine what he'd be with the same benefits the other 9 guys have.

Can't pay him though, and cut into Clark's kids trust fund.
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:00 PM   #79
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Is the defense still stacking the box playing purely against the run if the Chiefs threw the ball around like the Packers?
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Is the defense still stacking the box playing purely against the run if the Chiefs threw the ball around like the Packers?
They have a QB that can throw the ball around.


Cassel has proved that he makes me throw my remote control around.
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They have a QB that can throw the ball around.


Cassel has proved that he makes me throw my remote control around.
But we are playing what ifs.

If Cassel could throw the ball is the defense still gonna stack the box and play the run?
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Is the defense still stacking the box playing purely against the run if the Chiefs threw the ball around like the Packers?
Our running game sucked arse last year.

No one was stacking the box.

Bowe was our best threat.
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But we are playing what ifs.

If Cassel could throw the ball is the defense still gonna stack the box and play the run?
Of course not. You would probably see a lot of cover 2 and zone blitzing (depending on the team).
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Our running game sucked arse last year.

No one was stacking the box.

Bowe was our best threat.
Whether it sucked or not is irrelevant.

You said we were 29th in passing attempts, I believe, so wtf did we do?
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Whether it sucked or not is irrelevant.

You said we were 29th in passing attempts, I believe, so wtf did we do?
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Our running game sucked arse last year.

No one was stacking the box.

Bowe was our best threat.
Hamas or someone else debunked the "stacking the box" myth a while back.

Again, the lies people tell themselves to rationalize this team's performance...
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I think Copper can pick up some slack and be the #1 WR for the first few weeks of the season.
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I think Copper can pick up some slack and be the #1 WR for the first few weeks of the season.
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