Deshaun Watson is not a top 10 QB

[dlphg9]

Deshaun Watson is constantly getting praised as one of the best young QBs. Hell before the season people were saying he was 2nd best behind Mahomes. I'm here to tell you that he's not even in the top 10.

Deshaun Watson did have a bad GM in B.O.B, but he wasn't that bad as a coach. He always had the Texans respectable, but what he did to that franchise as a GM is senile. That doesn't mean he has to be the scape goat for every time Watson makes a mistake or can't close out a game. Watson was one of/if not the main reason for the playoff loss to the Chiefs. No elite QB is going to allow an opponent to run away with a game after being up 24-0. Another scape goat Watson has is his O line. He is terrible in the pocket and is the main reason for his high sack rate.

He has had success in his past seasons and it seems to me that a lot of that success was due to DeAndre Hopkins ability to catch everything that was anywhere close to him. He made that team so much better and was more important than Watson. Just look at this year what has happened in Houston. Hopkins got traded and the team literally fell apart and Watson has been absolute trash. Now how is he trash when he's on pace for 4800 yards and 34 TDs? He's a god damn garbage time all star, but he struts around like he's playing like an all pro and that his team is trash.

He has sucked shit in the 1st quarter all year and is one of the main reasons why his team is always playing from behind. In the 1st quarter of games this year he is

27/46, 58.7% comp, 285 yards, 1 TD, 13 1st down passes. That's in 7 ****ing games! Almost half a season and he's managed 1 passing TD and a measly 285 yds in the first quarter. Compare that to his 4th quarter stats when he can just throw it against a prevent defense when his team is down double digits. 50/74, 67.5% comp, 685 yds, 7 TDs, 2 Ints. These numbers would be elite and he'd be considered clutch if they'd would have won more than one game.

This is the score of all of his games this year going into the 4th quarter and a little of what transpires

KC - 24 - 7

Balt - 23 - 10

Pit - 20 - 21
Houston was up, but Watson threw an int during an 8 play 42 yd drive at the beginning of the 4th quarter and Pitt capitalized and scored the go ahead TD right after that. Watson gets the ball back down a TD, but he takes one of his patented sacks and goes 3 and out and never sees the ball again. With how great he's been in the 4th quarter this year and how elite he is you'd expect more than 45 yds and an int in the 4th, but he choked the game away.

Min - 24 - 16
Deshaun had a chance to tie the game, but couldn't punch it in when they had the ball with around a minute left 2nd down and 1 yard to go from the Minnesota 1. David Johnson tries to run it in and gets stuffed. Then on 3rd down Watson is running an option and gets scared of a big hit, so he tosses it to David and David doesn't catch it, but he recovers the fumble and it's a 4 yard loss. 4th and 5 gives Watson a chance to redeem himself, but he thinks DeAndre Hopkins is out there running a route and will bail out his shitty overthrown fade route. Not DeAndre does his best, but he can't overcome Watson's shit ball.

Jax - Houston's only win!

Ten -
Deshaun tries really hard, but for some dumb shit reason the Texans go up 7 with 1:53 left in the game and Romeo oh Romeo says "Hey Mr Clutch, go out there and get us 2 points, so this game is over" and Deshaun replies "no probs Romeo O'Brien, I mean Bill, I got this", but Mr. Clutch ain't so clutch and two point conv fails. Ten scores a TD, makes XP, gets ball in OT and drives down for a win.

GB - 28 - 7, but Deshaun tears that prevent up in the 4th and racks up those garbage time numbers to the tune of 100 yards and a TD. 72 and the TD of those yards came in one drive when it really mattered down 35 to 14 with 3:40 left in the game a 2 minute drive to make it a 2 score game. Real nail biter.

Deshaun ****ing sucks. He ain't shit. He got paid and will continually get talked as if he's some elite QB on a team devoid of talent because B.O.B ****ed the franchise. Watson is gonna hit free agency in a few years and get another huge deal because it's not his fault the team never gets above 8-8 again. He will be shitting the bed in the first year of his next deal and everyone will be wondering why Bill O' Brien and his offensive line are still preventing him from winning a game.

Eat shit DeBerg

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Kyler Murray and Josh Allen have now surpassed Watson.

I would take Kyler over Watson. Not Allen.

Allen has his own flaws that come out from time to time. Look at yesterday when Arizona DC started playing more man coverage and pressure. Allen threw it to the other team 4 times and could have been 5 with another terrible decision where he chucked the ball up in the air as he was falling down.

Right now Watson's value looks low but we have seen him perform at a high level for most of his career.

[RunKC]

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This is relative though. Being “stuck” with Watson gives them a good chance assuming they fix the coaching and start making good personnel moves.

Technically any team that has a QB that isn’t Wilson, Mahomes or Rodgers is stuck bc they likely won’t beat them unless they have much better team and coaching.

It's interesting because in the past when you said 'outside x, y, and z' at QB, it was more that the league was filled with scrubs and there were three competent QBs.

Now we have a ton of competent, even elite QBs, and then three that are game-changing phenoms.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I can point to a similar stretch of games for Ryan Tannehill.

“Alex Smith is an MVP candidate!” -2017 season

Watson had great stat streaks plenty of times under Bill O’Brien. It’s ridiculous to think Watson is thriving under the leadership of Romeo Crennel when before then Billy O was holding him back

[MahomesMagic]

Watson has really impressed me recently. I think he's taken a step against zone.

He still needs 3 vertical threats to maximize his game going into next year.

[Titty Meat]

Wrong.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

I can point to a similar stretch of games for Ryan Tannehill.

“Alex Smith is an MVP candidate!” -2017 season

Watson had great stat streaks plenty of times under Bill O’Brien. It’s ridiculous to think Watson is thriving under the leadership of Romeo Crennel when before then Billy O was holding him back

But Alex had Andy Reid, Tyreek and Kelce. Oh and Hunt too. Tannehill’s success is dependent on Henry. He uses play action and bootlegs just like Rat QB’s did in Denver.

Watson has no HC and the thing about him was that Hopkins was his safety net. Now that he’s gone the guy is having a career year.

He’ll never be Patrick Mahomes, but nobody is. Watson is a top 10 QB and honestly we’d be happy with him if we weren’t able to get Patrick.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

He's easily top 10

[ThaVirus]

He's currently the all-time passer rating leader with a minimum of 1500 attempts at 103.6, edging out Aaron Rodgers who's a top 103.1.

Mahomes is at 110 and needs 27 more attempts to qualify.

[Gary Cooper]

I would take him over any AFC QB besides Mahomes. My biggest concern would be health. He's had serious injuries before. If he's healthy and has a competent team around him, he's really good.

[Halfcan]

Watson throws four TD's against the sad-sack Lions- MVP!!!

[staylor26]

Yea Watson is definitely top 10.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Watson throws four TD's against the sad-sack Lions- MVP!!!

Literally no one has said he should be mvp.

[KChiefs1]

[Deberg_1990]

Houston’s problem is they beat the bad teams but can’t beat any good ones.