Official 2019 NBA Offseason Thread

[Al Bundy]

NBA Draft June 20th 2019
NBA Free Agency begins 6 PM East June 30th
NBA Draft order below
Full 2019 NBA Draft Order
1 1 New Orleans Pelicans Zion Williamson F Duke
1 2 Memphis Grizzlies JA Morant PG Murray State
1 3 New York Knicks RJ Barrett PG Duke
1 4 Atlanta Hawks (Via New Orleans Pelicans Via Los Angeles Lakers) De'Andre Hunter F Virginia
1 5 Cleveland Cavaliers Darius Garland PG Vanderbilt
1 6 Minnesota Timberwolves (Via Suns) Jarrett Culver SG Texas Tech
1 7 Chicago Bulls Coby White PG North Carolina
1 8 New Orleans Pelicans Via Atlanta Hawks Jaxson Hayes C Texas (Son of former Chiefs player Jonathan Hayes)
1 9 Washington Wizards Rui Hachimura PF Gonzaga
1 10 Atlanta Hawks (from Dallas) Cam Reddish SF Duke
1 11 Phoenix Suns (From TWolves) Cameron Johnson SF North Carolina
1 12 Charlotte Hornets PJ Washington Jr. PF Kentucky
1 13 Miami Heat Tyler Herro SG Kentucky
1 14 Boston Celtics (from Sacramento via Philadelphia) Romeo Langford SG Indiana
1 15 Detroit Pistons Sekou Doumboya PF France
1 16 Orlando Magic Chum Okeke PF Auburn
1 17 New Orleans Pelicans (from Atlanta via Brooklyn) Nickeil Alexander-Walker SG Virginia Tech
1 18 Indiana Pacers Goga Bitadze C Georgia
1 19 San Antonio Spurs Luka Samanic PF Croatia
1 20 Boston Celtics (from LA Clippers via Memphis) (Traded to 76ers) Mattise Thybulle SF Washington
1 21 Memphis Grizzlies (Traded to Memphis) Brandon Clarke PF Gonzaga
1 22 Boston Celtics Grant Williams PF Tennessee
1 23 Utah Jazz (Traded to Memphis) (Traded to Oklahoma City) Darius Bazely SF HS from Cincy
1 24 Philadelphia 76ers (Traded to Phoenix Via Boston) Ty Jerome PG Virginia
1 25 Portland Trail Blazers Nassir Little SF North Carolina
1 26 Cleveland Cavaliers (from Houston) Dylan Windler SF Belmont
1 27 Brooklyn Nets (from Denver To Clippers) Mfiondu Kabengele C Florida State
1 28 Golden State Warriors Jordan Poole SG Michigan
1 29 San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto) Keldon Johnson SF Kentucky
1 30 Milwaukee Bucks (Traded to Cleveland) Kevin Porter Jr. SG USC

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Has there ever been a young NBA prospect who’s fully formed when he comes out?

Perry Ellis.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Wiggins was overrated even in college. Never got the love for that guy he's an overrated Kerry Kittles.

Bill self better be thanking embiid everyday because other than him, KU has put out some shitty ass players in the league. Josh Jackson is about to be traded by the suns for a 2nd round pick 2 years after being drafted 4th. That's pretty terrible.

[tk13]

Sounds like the Lakers are basically trying to dump everyone who is not LeBron, AD or Kuzma just to create another max slot.

Lakers are trying to expand Anthony Davis trade and create ability to open max salary slot on July 6, sources tell @BobbyMarks42 and me. Lakers offering contracts of Mo Wagner/Jemerrio Jones/Isaac Bonga to additional teams, so LA can satisfy CBA rules on creating $32M in space.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 19, 2019

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by -King-

Bill self better be thanking embiid everyday because other than him, KU has put out some shitty ass players in the league. Josh Jackson is about to be traded by the suns for a 2nd round pick 2 years after being drafted 4th. That's pretty terrible.

Why would Bill Self need to thank Embiid? And wouldn't that be a testament to his coaching ability if nobody other than Embiid became elite?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by -King-

Bill self better be thanking embiid everyday because other than him, KU has put out some shitty ass players in the league. Josh Jackson is about to be traded by the suns for a 2nd round pick 2 years after being drafted 4th. That's pretty terrible.

Yeah the talent hes sent to the NBA has been trash but has that really mattered? Aside from the past year hes had arguably more success than any other coach in college basketball. Callapari for example has sent of talent to the NBA but IMO hes underachieved.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by tk13

Sounds like the Lakers are basically trying to dump everyone who is not LeBron, AD or Kuzma just to create another max slot.

Lakers are trying to expand Anthony Davis trade and create ability to open max salary slot on July 6, sources tell @BobbyMarks42 and me. Lakers offering contracts of Mo Wagner/Jemerrio Jones/Isaac Bonga to additional teams, so LA can satisfy CBA rules on creating $32M in space.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 19, 2019

Superteam #3. Here we go.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by tk13

Sounds like the Lakers are basically trying to dump everyone who is not LeBron, AD or Kuzma just to create another max slot.

Lakers are trying to expand Anthony Davis trade and create ability to open max salary slot on July 6, sources tell @BobbyMarks42 and me. Lakers offering contracts of Mo Wagner/Jemerrio Jones/Isaac Bonga to additional teams, so LA can satisfy CBA rules on creating $32M in space.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 19, 2019

Rumors are that they're gonna have to include Kuzma in a deal to make that happen.

Then again, The Rumors are also that Kuzma won't be traded because he has a habit of re-arranging Jeanie Buss's organs on the reg, so there's that...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Why would Bill Self need to thank Embiid? And wouldn't that be a testament to his coaching ability if nobody other than Embiid became elite?

The person Self needs to thank is Mario Chalmers.

Without that one shot, his entire career is looked at very differently...

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Why would Bill Self need to thank Embiid? And wouldn't that be a testament to his coaching ability if nobody other than Embiid became elite?

It's a testament that he gets great recruits and barely develops them enough to translate to the pro game like other big time coaches/programs.

[KC_Connection]

As a KU fan, all I care about is that Self produces results in NCAA with the guys that he has, not whether guys who stayed at KU for a year become good NBA players. There are a number of reasons why many of those guys have failed, most of which come back to them just not being that good in the first place (see Wiggins).

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by -King-

It's a testament that he gets great recruits and barely develops them enough to translate to the pro game like other big time coaches/programs.

Wait wait wait, you think college coaches are the prime source of development for a OAD player? That that makes or breaks their career? Ha.

I think it's more along the line of, if you are going to be a HOF or All-Star, no college coach is going to develop you into one or not. College coaches might help you develop quicker, but it's up to you to reach your max potential and that has nothing to do with college coaches.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

As a KU fan, all I care about is that Self produces results in NCAA with the guys that he has, not whether guys who stayed at KU for a year become good NBA players. There are a number of reasons why many of those guys have failed, most of which come back to them just not being that good in the first place (see Wiggins).

When you couple being overrated with a don't-give-a-flip attitude, you end up with Wiggins.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Wait wait wait, you think college coaches are the prime source of development for a OAD player? That that makes or breaks their career? Ha.

I think it's more along the line of, if you are going to be a HOF or All-Star, no college coach is going to develop you into one or not. College coaches might help you develop quicker, but it's up to you to reach your max potential and that has nothing to do with college coaches.

I think colleges can prepare players to play in the league. And some coaches are better at preparing players for the league and some aren't. You don't? I mean, there's a reason college coaches talk about the players theyve gotten to the league when talking to recruits.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by -King-

I think colleges can prepare players to play in the league. And some coaches are better at preparing players for the league and some aren't. You don't? I mean, there's a reason college coaches talk about the players theyve gotten to the league when talking to recruits.

Yeah, but it's just salesmanship.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Yeah, but it's just salesmanship.

So you don't think coaches try to prepare kids to go to the league? Do you think Calipari is just lucky with the number of players that go to the league and are either stars or good contributors? Or do you think he actively tries to develop them to play in the NBA?