Chiefs Can someone please explain the challenge?

**Buehler445** · 11-20-2018, 12:09 AM

I get it was a tipped ball and that negated the penalty but my understanding was that you couldn’t challenge penalties and they couldn’t be overturned.

I mean I’ll take it after the raping they put on us, but what the hell happened?

Side note: who else likes Angry Andy? I laughed my ass off when he told Goff to get bent.

Coach · 11-20-2018, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I get it was a tipped ball and that negated the penalty but my understanding was that you couldn’t challenge penalties and they couldn’t be overturned.

I mean I’ll take it after the raping they put on us, but what the hell happened?

Side note: who else likes Angry Andy? I laughed my ass off when he told Goff to get bent.

Didn't challenge the penalty itself. They challenged that the ball was tipped prior to the penalty. Since it was tipped, there cannot be PI/Holding.

-King- · 11-20-2018, 12:10 AM

He didn't challenge the penalty. He changed that the pass was tipped which you can do apparently.
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**Rain Man** · 11-20-2018, 12:12 AM

Yeah, I wondered about that. I didn't know you could file a challenge that would result in picking up a flag. But maybe that's because the penalty is not a judgment call in this case. If the ball is tipped, it's clearly not a penalty unless you're Jeff Triplette just making up rules as you go along.

MVChiefFan · 11-20-2018, 12:12 AM

Same. I liked that it happened, but I had no idea you could challenge a penalty. And YES, I liked to died when Andy gave that douche the business!

**Buehler445** · 11-20-2018, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Didn't challenge the penalty itself. They challenged that the ball was tipped prior to the penalty. Since it was tipped, there cannot be PI/Holding.

I don’t know. It’s just weird as shit. What you’re saying makes sense, but I thought they couldn’t overturn penalties.

It should have never come to that. Everybody on the planet knew it was tipped and it was a hogshit call. But damn. I wish we could get blind ass penalties turned over more often.

**New World Order** · 11-20-2018, 12:15 AM

I want to see more of 'Angry Andy'

MVChiefFan · 11-20-2018, 12:16 AM

Yeah, but essentially you’re still challenging the penalty. Because, had there been no penalty, it wouldn’t have made a difference whether the ball was tipped or not.

**007** · 11-20-2018, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

I want to see more of 'Angry Andy'

I would like to see that side of him every week. Him always remaining silent drives me nuts.

Coach · 11-20-2018, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I don’t know. It’s just weird as shit. What you’re saying makes sense, but I thought they couldn’t overturn penalties.

It should have never come to that. Everybody on the planet knew it was tipped and it was a hogshit call. But damn. I wish we could get blind ass penalties turned over more often.

If it isn't a Personal Foul/Unsportsmanlike penalty, it can be nullified, I believe. Then again, this is the NFL, so who the hell really knows?

Coach · 11-20-2018, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

Yeah, but essentially you’re still challenging the penalty. Because, had there been no penalty, it wouldn’t have made a difference whether the ball was tipped or not.

He wasn't challenging the penalty itself. He was challenging the play. Since it was tipped, there could be no PI/Holding because it's a free-for-all.

**Rain Man** · 11-20-2018, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

If it isn't a Personal Foul/Unsportsmanlike penalty, it can be nullified, I believe. Then again, this is the NFL, so who the hell really knows?

So could we have challenged the punt return where our guy touched the Ram in the back as he was diving? I don't think so.

I feel like it's got something to do with not being a judgment call. Most penalties are judgment calls, but this penalty had a very clear requirement (non-tipped ball) that was very clearly not met.

Coach · 11-20-2018, 12:39 AM

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So could we have challenged the punt return where our guy touched the Ram in the back as he was diving? I don't think so.

I feel like it's got something to do with not being a judgment call. Most penalties are judgment calls, but this penalty had a very clear requirement (non-tipped ball) that was very clearly not met.

Unfortunately, you can't challenge the penalty itself (the block in the back, which was very weak call). I would be in favor of challenging penalties, but I also understand the risks of that, as it would extend the game much longer. And I don't see the NFL wants to even go there anyways.

Like baseball, there is a need an electronic strike zone (in my opinion) because like the strike zone, penalties in the NFL is very subjective. There were a lot of offensive line holding calls that would have met the criteria (for both teams), that did not get called.

MatriculatingHank · 11-20-2018, 02:13 AM

Can someone post a GIF of Andy shutting Goff's pie hole??

KChiefs1 · 11-20-2018, 02:18 AM

Angry Andy is the best.

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11-20-2018, 12:09 AM
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $2414734	Can someone please explain the challenge? I get it was a tipped ball and that negated the penalty but my understanding was that you couldn’t challenge penalties and they couldn’t be overturned. I mean I’ll take it after the raping they put on us, but what the hell happened? Side note: who else likes Angry Andy? I laughed my ass off when he told Goff to get bent.
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3418491 VARSITY	Yeah, I wondered about that. I didn't know you could file a challenge that would result in picking up a flag. But maybe that's because the penalty is not a judgment call in this case. If the ball is tipped, it's clearly not a penalty unless you're Jeff Triplette just making up rules as you go along. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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MVChiefFan Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Here Casino cash: $1704975	Same. I liked that it happened, but I had no idea you could challenge a penalty. And YES, I liked to died when Andy gave that douche the business! __________________ I haven’t slept for ten days straight… because that would be way too long.
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MVChiefFan Veteran Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Here Casino cash: $1704975	Yeah, but essentially you’re still challenging the penalty. Because, had there been no penalty, it wouldn’t have made a difference whether the ball was tipped or not. __________________ I haven’t slept for ten days straight… because that would be way too long.
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