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Old 03-26-2014, 01:02 PM  
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:22 PM   #61
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I think maybe some of the actual benefits will be that kids might have a grievance process if their scholarship is ripped for some reason. Or maybe if they think they're being disciplined unfairly.
Pay aside I would like it if the kids had more say NCAA-wide regardling eligibility, suspensions, transfers, etc.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:23 PM   #62
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I also don't see why the NCAA can't institute wage controls to ensure fair competition in recruiting.

If a player is deciding between staying close to home at the University of North Dakota but also has an offer from the University of Alabama, the money shouldn't be the deciding factor. The NCAA can take measures to regulate that.
The NCAA could, but they won't, because then the power conferences would leave the NCAA and form their own club.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:25 PM   #63
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The value of that education is less than the fair market value of their labor.

If it isn't, the school can easily say "we're not paying" and cancel sports.

Do you REALLY think they are going to do that? A few might, but not many.
The value of the education is less than the fair market value of their labor?

How much does someone earn over their entire lifetime if they get a college degree and find a job working in their chosen field?

I hope this goes through and these athletes are now treated like employees. Do away with their scholarships and pay them a salary. They will be required to pay for all of their expenses. All of the perks they recieve now will no longer be provided for free.

Doing bad in a class and need help--Hire your own tutor.
Enjoy paying taxes on the salary you are paid.
Tuition and books are now your responsibility.
Room and board is now your responsibility.
Food is now your responsibility.
If I'm the school, I also put in place a stict attendance policy. If you feel like you don't need to show up for class, guess what as your employer I can fire you for poor job performance.
Get a DUI--**** you you're fired.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:27 PM   #64
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I find your last paragraph extremely debatable. They are not only getting a free education worth thousands and thousands of dollars to schools that the majority of them wouldn't get into if they didn't play sports but they're also getting a lifetime of that benefit. Forty years of higher wages due to a degree from a top notch university for playing sports is a huge deal.
When the athletes for a power school provide over a hundred million dollars of value to that school, you can't just automatically point to the scholarship and declare it to be enough, that is not fair. Most of the time, the athlete can probably take out loans anyway, so we're just talking about the present value of those loans, not the value of the education.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:29 PM   #65
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The NCAA could, but they won't, because then the power conferences would leave the NCAA and form their own club.
This needs to happen. **** the NCAA
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:30 PM   #66
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The value of the education is less than the fair market value of their labor?
If they want to go to school, they can, they just have to take out loans like the rest of us.

You can't throw the value of the education on the scale, thats available to them whether they are an athlete or not. The only thing you have on the athlete's side of the scale is the cost of the loans. On a typical power school's side of the scale you have a huge amount of money, and you are calling it even.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:34 PM   #67
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When the athletes for a power school provide over a hundred million dollars of value to that school, you can't just automatically point to the scholarship and declare it to be enough, that is not fair. Most of the time, the athlete can probably take out loans anyway, so we're just talking about the present value of those loans, not the value of the education.
You can't just dismiss the free education aspect of all of this. If used properly, that is something that will earn you money every year for the rest of your life.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:34 PM   #68
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This needs to happen. **** the NCAA
as soon as that happens then you can forget about NCAA tourney as shit


once the governing body goes then the big schools won't give a shit about the small ones. The smalls schools might as well get rid of their athletic dept. all together.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:39 PM   #70
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as soon as that happens then you can forget about NCAA tourney as shit


once the governing body goes then the big schools won't give a shit about the small ones. The smalls schools might as well get rid of their athletic dept. all together.
That or the NAIA is about to be tripled in size.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:40 PM   #71
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Game changer no doubt. The successful programs will be the ones with the deepest pockets. Imagine if Peyton Manning decided not to go to the NFL cuz Tennessee offered him more to stay. Wonder if there will be a cap or ceiling as to what they can be paid? The bidding wars for high school athletes could be ridiculous, with the top players doing the LeBron on ESPN. This is gonna be crazy.
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You can't just dismiss the free education aspect of all of this. If used properly, that is something that will earn you money every year for the rest of your life.
I can, because the school is not providing an education to someone who is unable to get an education. They are providing money, in the form of a scholarship. If you want to go to school, you can go to school, you may have to fill out a FAFSA and work part-time.

Even in those situations where someone gets into Stanford who otherwise would not have been admitted, they still would have bneen able to go to a State U, and we're now talking about the marginal difference between those two type of schools, for a few athletes.
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It would be interesting to see where top recruits go. Would universities in right to work states be at a disadvantage?
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That or the NAIA is about to be tripled in size.
or pass a law.

If we can't, then the people through their representatives will have signed off on another pro league.
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