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Old 11-19-2019, 12:12 AM  
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Official discussion thread on Andy’s late game conservative play calling

It’s a continuing thing from Philly. Why can’t he learn or change?

I and the Chief fans I was with were so pissed off at Andy being conservative again at the end of the game. 2 and 6. You get the 1st down. That’s it, game over. I would be trusting Mahomes to get 6 yards in two tries over trusting our defense.

Almost burned us again just last week. Came close to blowing a another game with conservative play calling.

Come on Andy, your a HOF coach but it’s time to rethink this late game conservative strategy. Trust in Mahomes to get it done.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:55 AM   #16
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Is it too controversial to say that both Andy and Mahomes were awful in the 4th quarter tonight? Because they were.

The difference is that I don’t expect that to be the norm for Pat. But it has been the norm for 20 years for Reid, and I don’t anticipate that changing anytime soon.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:55 AM   #17
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Andy probably has 100 plays that’s designed to get 6+ yards. Call a couple of them.
And screens are some of those plays.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:57 AM   #18
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Is it too controversial to say that both Andy and Mahomes were awful in the 4th quarter tonight? Because they were.

The difference is that I don’t expect that to be the norm for Pat. But it has been the norm for 20 years for Reid, and I don’t anticipate that changing anytime soon.
You would just be wrong.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:58 AM   #19
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And screens are some of those plays.
And they are designed to catch a team being aggressive, which they weren't after multiple screen/dump passes.
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:00 AM   #20
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And they are designed to catch a team being aggressive, which they weren't after multiple screen/dump passes.
Both of those flat passes were going to work if Mahomes had thrown the ball properly.

All 22 will vindicate Andy on this further.
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:02 AM   #21
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This isn't true.

Otherwise, Mahomes would not have dropped back to pass, found no one open, and run for first downs because Andy's receivers cleared out the underneath.

Get a clue.
my opinion is not an isolated one in some far corner of Chiefs nation. The vast majority of Chief fans think Reid’s too conservative with a lead late in games.

Same opinion in Philly all those years.

And it’s not isolated to just fans either. Those who study the game, know the X’s And O’s also agree its Andy’s weakest part of his coaching game.
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:04 AM   #22
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Andy should be given a shitload of credit tonight. The team had to adapt after the turf went to hell and Tyreek left the game.

Andy changed the entire offensive gameplan. For ****'s sake, we ran POWER O inside the 10 with two tight ends. And it WORKED.

This is what you dumbasses have been screaming about all year.

"Andy just wants to throw deep every play, hurr durr."

Well, he didn't, after that terrible INT by Mahomes. He pulled out some of his best coaching of the year. And it worked to perfection, and pushed the Chargers into desperation mode, away from their running game.

And if the offensive line had blocked a tiny bit better at the end, and Mahomes had not ****ed up, we're not having these stupid threads.

Andy is a ****ing genius and you guys can't enjoy a win. Pathetic.
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:05 AM   #23
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This isn't true.

Otherwise, Mahomes would not have dropped back to pass, found no one open, and run for first downs because Andy's receivers cleared out the underneath.

Get a clue.
1) At least these plays allowed MVP to improvise. Designed swing/screen puts it all on an average back, instead of MVP.
2) Patrick improvising = good. Give him 3 chances as opposed to 1 in a desperate situation. The kid is a pure competitor. He finds a way.
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:05 AM   #24
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Both of those flat passes were going to work if Mahomes had thrown the ball properly.

All 22 will vindicate Andy on this further.
How about just running a pass play designed for Kelce over the middle.
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1) At least these plays allowed MVP to improvise. Designed swing/screen puts it all on an average back, instead of MVP.

2) Patrick improvising = good. Give him 3 chances as opposed to 1 in a desperate situation. The kid is a pure competitor. He finds a way.
Those weren't designed swing passes. The back was open because of the route combo. A different defense, with a defender in the flat, he's not open.

Mahomes has to execute the throw. Not on Andy.

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How about just running a pass play designed for Kelce over the middle.
You do realize they called a pass play to Kelce on the last offensive snap...no?

You can't go to that well every time.

I get bitching about Andy last week. I was.

This wasn't a repeat. This was poor execution by the OL and Mahomes.
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Andy is a ****ing genius and you guys can't enjoy a win. Pathetic.
I stated that Andy’s the 2nd best Coach in the NFL. That I’m damn glad he’s my teams coach.

Posting on here for 16 years. I think most would agree that I’m more in the small “homer” part of this board than the fire everyone crowd.
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my opinion is not an isolated one in some far corner of Chiefs nation. The vast majority of Chief fans think Reid’s too conservative with a lead late in games.

Same opinion in Philly all those years.

And it’s not isolated to just fans either. Those who study the game, know the X’s And O’s also agree its Andy’s weakest part of his coaching game.
The problem with that (and I'm not saying that the saying is wrong) is that it's used as an excuse so much that it's a lazy go to response instead of actually wondering if that were the case.

A lot of times, yes it is. Tonight was one of those instances where he called an alright game. People want to rip the conservative nature, but sometimes it's not a bad idea.

It wasn't like Rivers was having an all star performance.
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Marty shares your opinion. He's never right.

I rest my case.
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