***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[suzzer99]

There was a show on PBS called Frontier House where families had to live like pioneer families in a one-room cabin. In the end the kids all loved it, the men generally loved it because they were out chopping wood and hunting and providing for their family, but the wives hated it because it was just housework all day long.

The saddest moment at the end was one of the kids in the rich family saying basically “Now that we’re back in this giant house - we hardly see each other anymore. I miss when we were all in one room.”

I have a feeling a lot of families are going to come out of this much more bonded with their kids and better able to handle time together - once they get over the initial adjustment period. Except for the poor kids with abusive parents who have no escape now. Ugh.

I could see lots of other weird revelations, changes in family dynamics, and unforeseen outcomes coming out of this.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

There was a show on PBS called Frontier house where families had to live like pioneer families in a one-room cabin. In the end the kids all loved it, the men generally loved it because they were out chopping wood and hunting and providing for their family, but the wives hated it because it was just housework all day long.

The saddest moment at the end was one of the kids in the rich family saying basically “Now that we’re back in this giant house - we hardly see each other anymore I miss when we were all in one room.”

I have a feeling a lot of families are going to come out of this much more bonded with their kids and better able to handle time together - once they get over the initial adjustment period. Except for the poor kids with abusive parents who have no escape now. Ugh.

I could see lots of other weird revelations, changes in family dynamics, and unforeseen outcomes coming out of this.

Wife said and is hoping for the same thing. Hopefully, families come out better for this. Hopefully, people understand what teachers do and how hard it is to be a teacher. And for some-how little their kids do their work. Hopefully, people are nicer to service workers. And just nicer overall..

Hey, I can hope.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by TLO

I apologize, my post wasn't directed towards you. It was towards oaklandhater, who is now on ignore.

All good man

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I remember reading a chart or something years ago that outlined what happened when someone quit smoking, and according to it after a certain amount of time it claimed the lungs would be back to where they would be if one never smoked at all. Apparently it was bullshit. Glad I never wasted time trying to quit. ****ing liars.

I have a friend whom can confirm. He has been off cigs for 20 years and got cancer.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Wife said and is hoping for the same thing. Hopefully, families come out better for this. Hopefully, people understand what teachers do and how hard it is to be a teacher. And for some-how little their kids do their work. Hopefully, people are nicer to service workers. And just nicer overall..

Hey, I can hope.

No offense dude, but the last thing on my mind is teachers.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

There was a show on PBS called Frontier House where families had to live like pioneer families in a one-room cabin. In the end the kids all loved it, the men generally loved it because they were out chopping wood and hunting and providing for their family, but the wives hated it because it was just housework all day long.

The saddest moment at the end was one of the kids in the rich family saying basically “Now that we’re back in this giant house - we hardly see each other anymore. I miss when we were all in one room.”

I have a feeling a lot of families are going to come out of this much more bonded with their kids and better able to handle time together - once they get over the initial adjustment period. Except for the poor kids with abusive parents who have no escape now. Ugh.

I could see lots of other weird revelations, changes in family dynamics, and unforeseen outcomes coming out of this.

Exactly. I was thinking how grateful the kids were seeing Chris Beniot come home from work.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Spott

I’ve never smoked and I had always heard that they will heal up, at least somewhat once a person quits smoking. Upon googling “can damaged lungs heal”, it appears that they can (assuming all of the articles posted are correct).

If the damage is the the small vessels that transport oxygen those can’t heal will your lungs get better yes will they get to the point they were if you never smoked possibly but not likely. Might depend on length of time smoked .

[Demonpenz]

Oh Damn teachers can get more time off from the 3 ****ing months they already have off. It wouldn't hurt teachers to thank tax payers every once in awhile either.

[Bwana]

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Oh Damn teachers can get more time off from the 3 ****ing months they already have off. It wouldn't hurt teachers to thank tax payers every once in awhile either.

I pay taxes in my district so I can have a salary. So when I voted for the referendum-I voted for a tax hike-so I can have a bigger salary-which means I will pay more in property and income taxes. So, a net loss.


Any time a kid complains about class-I tell them everyone out there is paying for them to get a free education and they are expecting the kids use it. If they don't want a free education-the school down the road is 17k a year. Good luck.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by loochy

No offense dude, but the last thing on my mind is teachers.

Just a hope of an unintended consequence. Inside-I am a bowl of jello taking extra anxiety medicine.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

He can kiss his lungs goodbye.

The fan at the end was a nice touch.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Natasha Ott, a 39-year-old New Orleans resident, felt the beginnings of a cold coming on March 10.

On Monday, she tested for coronavirus. Five days later, she was dead in her kitchen before ever getting her results — which were delayed. https://t.co/VbbvHTYxxc

— NOLA.com (@NOLAnews) March 21, 2020

how any one can compare this to swine is beyond me.

ESPN reporter Edward Aschoff died in December from pneumonia at age 34... you can select anecdotal cases of almost any illness to promote hysteria/panic if that is your objective.

[petegz28]

Significant movement in deaths per total cases at the moment. We are down to 1.19%. We were at 2.5% last week. Granted this is going down due to increased testing but it is going down.

By the same measurement Italy is now at 9.0% which is actually up from 8.5% much of the last week.

[bdj23]

OH is spewing estrogen all over this thread too?