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Old 02-09-2019, 05:06 PM  
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Upgrading the offensive line (...or not?)

Due to the nature of large threads, several days ago the Spagnuolo thread kind of veered off for awhile into a discussion about offensive line. I thought an interesting conversation got going while we were on the subject of drafting/developing players cheaply when we Mahomes eventually needs to get paid and how we can get a head start on gaining some of that flexibility.

These are the Chiefs OL who are 2019 free agents:

Mitch Morse
Jordan Devey
Jeff Allen

If we just let them walk, we'd be left with:

Austin Reiter
Jimmy Murray
Kahlil McKenzie
Andrew Wylie
Eric Fisher
Mitch Schwartz
Cam Erving
LDT

Plus the following dudes from the practice squad if you want to be "official":

Ryan Hunter
Pace Murphy

How much investment in OL do you think is optimal? Are you satisfied with the developmental guys on the roster, or would you go so far to use even a 2nd rounder to replace Morse? Would you take it a step further and also invest in finding a better LG or even backup OT?
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:31 PM   #31
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Khalil McKenzie may get his shot at the interior line in the near future. ****, he made the final 53
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:56 PM   #32
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Reiter and Wylie are trash
Itís a good thing breathing is natural, otherwise youíd be dead. Mahomes does need a little better protection , he made that line better than they are
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Old 02-09-2019, 07:59 PM   #33
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Reiter and Wylie are fine. Morse is soft, especially in the run. And he can't stay healthy.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:07 PM   #34
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Jimmy/James Murray has some promise. In the little 2017 Holy Cross video that is available, he looked like a man playing football against boys, but that was against lesser competition. In preseason I wanted to see more of him but he got hurt and we did not get to see that much of him. In his limited play he must have made enough of an impression that he made the practice squad. I am hoping that he really comes on during the offseason and we see him battling with Austin Reiter for the center position.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:19 PM   #35
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We need a lineman that can come in and play LT or RT if KC needs.

For 2018 Cam Erving was the backup at LT and Andrew Wylie was the backup at RT. Not sure how that would go but I don't want to see.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:21 PM   #36
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We need a lineman that can come in and play LT or RT if KC needs.

For 2018 Cam Erving was the backup at LT and Andrew Wylie was the backup at RT. Not sure how that would go but I don't want to see.
Erving could still be the backup at LT and Wylie the backup at RT...Wylie will not be starting so.....
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:24 PM   #37
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Depends on what they do w/ Morse. Personally I'd like to see the guy walk only because he can't stay healthy and he's 1 hit in the dome away from being scrambled eggs. But if they were to keep him, the interior line is set. It's depth at OT that I'm most worried about. Erving can play tackle, but not very well.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:31 PM   #38
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Depends on what they do w/ Morse. Personally I'd like to see the guy walk only because he can't stay healthy and he's 1 hit in the dome away from being scrambled eggs. But if they were to keep him, the interior line is set. It's depth at OT that I'm most worried about. Erving can play tackle, but not very well.
They need to let him walk because he isn't worth the $.
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:10 PM   #39
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Depends on what they do w/ Morse. Personally I'd like to see the guy walk only because he can't stay healthy and he's 1 hit in the dome away from being scrambled eggs. But if they were to keep him, the interior line is set. It's depth at OT that I'm most worried about. Erving can play tackle, but not very well.
I know its true and all, but this is said about him every year the last couple of years and every year he takes a hit to the dome. The guy needs to call it quits before he gets completely ****ed in the head. Maybe sign the biggest deal he can in the offseason and then just act like he cant play during the season and collect that check!
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Old 02-09-2019, 09:58 PM   #40
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The players on the O line are either talented or theyre not. The O line coach isnt going to make too much of a difference. KC sure loves it scapegoats.
So looking back on the last 2 years you think our O line has been stellar? Iíve seen Pat running for his life for a good part of the year. Is that part of his game?? Sure, but heíd surely do event better with better protection. Scapegoat?? Yeah I guess our offensive line getting beat by the better teams in the league shouldnít be too worrisome considering we have a once in a lifetime qb behind center. Letís keep going with the same guy who hasnít shown me that he can consistently push the line to the next level.

So are you saying we need to replace a good part of the line, because Andy ****ing Heck is doing an admirable job??
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Old 02-09-2019, 10:32 PM   #41
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Dump Heck and try to steal New Englandís o-line Coach Or pick up the Indy O-line coach. Thatíll be a start. Heck has been able to develop players but the overall performance just hasnít been good since heís been here.
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Old 02-09-2019, 11:17 PM   #42
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Yeah that Oline was so trash this year that they allowed their QB to throw 50 TD- 5000 yards, be MVP and were part of a historically good offense.

Get a clue.

They just need to keep investing in that Oline.

I would like a center in the 2nd or 3rd round.
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Reiter will be the Center. He was damn good when Morse was out
He wasnít good in pass pro.
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:25 AM   #44
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He wasnít good in pass pro.
To be expected. Pass Pro is the hardest part of the O-line and he came in mid-season.....cut him some slack
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Dump Heck and try to steal New Englandís o-line Coach Or pick up the Indy O-line coach. Thatíll be a start. Heck has been able to develop players but the overall performance just hasnít been good since heís been here.
I was expecting the Chiefs to make a run at DeGuglielmo. I'm surprised he hasn't found a job yet.
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