Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 197

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

Marcellus · 07-14-2013, 09:33 PM

You guys are over thinking shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 09:34 PM

Yadi calls the change too much. The fastball has become a sneaky weapon that is underused.

Mi_chief_fan · 07-14-2013, 09:34 PM

I have a bad feeling about this game.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You guys are over thinking shit.

Really?

Pepe Silvia · 07-14-2013, 09:35 PM

Fuuuuck

O.city · 07-14-2013, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You guys are over thinking shit.

Yeah, we really overthought that.

Marcellus · 07-14-2013, 09:35 PM

Maybe not. ****.

kcpasco · 07-14-2013, 09:35 PM

Stupid ump that was strike 3. But this one is still on MM.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 09:35 PM

Matheny is a ****ing numbskull.

Marcellus · 07-14-2013, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Matheny is a ****ing numbskull.

Why is that?

O.city · 07-14-2013, 09:38 PM

Why is that?

Did you not watch the last inning unfold?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 09:39 PM

There were two simple, common sense decisions that Matheny ****ed up in that game:

#1) Use your eighth inning guy in the eighth, especially when your seventh inning guy is the best reliever on the team right now.

#2) Never, ever let a pitcher hit late in a close game with multiple RISP and two outs.

I'll say it again: Matheny may be a great guy in the clubhouse, but he's a terrible ****ing manager.

Pepe Silvia · 07-14-2013, 09:39 PM

Matheny ****ed us like zed ****ed marcellus wallace.

O.city · 07-14-2013, 09:41 PM

Dude should have been called out on the 2-2 pitch anyway.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 09:42 PM

Here's the deal, Marcellus: a team like the Cardinals have manages itself. Matheny just needs to not **** it up, and he can't even do that. From a strategic and character perspective he's got the '85 Bears D with Adrian Peterson, the Chiefs 2003 line and he's the QB with the previous generation's rules. Just hand the ****ing ball off.

He can't even do that. Nice guy, sure. Handsome too. But a terrible ****ing manager.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3179627 VARSITY	*OFFICIAL* 2013 STL Cardinals Thread From Bernie's column: People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.” It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year. Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944. A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS. The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face. Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88. Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective: * Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90. * Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92). * The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa. The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160. The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati. The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA. The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball. The Cardinals really earned this. Thanks for reading ... — Bernie Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-02-2013 at 08:16 PM..
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07-14-2013, 09:33 PM	#2941
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07-14-2013, 09:35 PM	#2945
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07-14-2013, 09:35 PM	#2947
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07-14-2013, 09:35 PM	#2948
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07-14-2013, 09:35 PM	#2949
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Matheny is a ****ing numbskull. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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07-14-2013, 09:39 PM	#2952
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	There were two simple, common sense decisions that Matheny **ed up in that game: #1) Use your eighth inning guy in the eighth, especially when your seventh inning guy is the best reliever on the team right now. #2) Never, ever let a pitcher hit late in a close game with multiple RISP and two outs. I'll say it again: Matheny may be a great guy in the clubhouse, but he's a terrible **ing manager. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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07-14-2013, 09:39 PM	#2953
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07-14-2013, 09:41 PM	#2954
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07-14-2013, 09:42 PM	#2955
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Here's the deal, Marcellus: a team like the Cardinals have manages itself. Matheny just needs to not ** it up, and he can't even do that. From a strategic and character perspective he's got the '85 Bears D with Adrian Peterson, the Chiefs 2003 line and he's the QB with the previous generation's rules. Just hand the ing ball off. He can't even do that. Nice guy, sure. Handsome too. But a terrible **ing manager. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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