What bothers you the most about this franchise?

[Best22]

For me, it's easy.

The only NFL franchise with fewer Conference Championship appearances is the Houston Texans (est. 2002). The Chiefs and Lions are tied with 1 (and the Lions are a pure garbage franchise with 1 playoff victory since 1958 and a host of other embarrassment, only franchise in NFL that is clearly inferior to the Chiefs)

Here's why it hurts. With Superbowl wins, well, you have around 30 teams, and the game has only been around since 1966. With our SB IV trophy, we are still on track for one every 32 years. Okay then. I don't see that as a proper way to show the Chiefs incompetence as a franchise

But the AFCCG. There are 16 AFC teams. That means 1 of 8 teams play in it. So, mathematically, we should be there once every 8 years. Instead, for KC it has been once every 48 years. That's what bothers me the most about this franchise. Chargers have been there 4 times. Donks and Faiders, lol, I ain't counting all that

So get a team that is actually capable of winning big in the playoffs and maybe just maybe we will appear in that game once again...

[notorious]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

All of this. Pioli was the stink that caused Haley to fail. I really don't think Haley had any chance of real success with Pioli picking the players.

If he could have just gotten one position right instead of pushing the same piece of shit down our throats.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

also to add to that, he said when Andy got hired, it was because everyone got fired, clark had no idea what to do, went to donovan and was like please help, donovan had ties to philly, called Andy, who knowone in the league wanted as a head coach btw, and they hired him. "when the Hunts call, you answer" yeah cus its a free meal ticket to go 8-8 every year

Pioli was still here when reid was hired.

This can't be true

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

I mean its true, The Hunts dont live here, theyre not involved in the franchise, they check their bank account every morning and thats it. The steelers, Giants, Cowboys, Patriots, all have ownership that wakes up every morning, goes to teh stadium and thinks about how they can get better as an organization. Our owner wakes up, looks at his bank account, heads to Dallas Country Club to play golf, calls Andy Reid, Andy says yeah everything is fine up here dont worry about it we got it under control, and he gets back to shooting at 105 on the golf course. Prove to me im wrong about our ownership involvement

I agree with alot of what you are saying and I have said many times the biggest problem with the Chiefs is ownership. On the flip side though you can always point to an owner like Jerry Jones who hasn't won shit since Jimmy left. I highly doubt Kraft is doing much demanding in NE either. He shows up on game day and doesn't really have to worry about much.

When you think about it there is a very simple easy formula to win in the NFL but it is extremely hard to do. Which is find a great ****ing head coach and draft a franchise QB and you are set for a decade or more. If you don't do that successfully you will be just like the other 20 or so NFL franchises every year.

[BlackOp]

What bothers me...

That the Hunt family has a long running history of criminal activity...

They had to pay out $130 million in 1988 for conspiracy to manipulate the silver market...

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-08-..._hunt-brothers

For laymen...this is what happens to rich people when they get caught juking the system. Johnny Normal serves 20 years...

Be worth a billion...wear a suit and people will accept you're a fraud.

Let this be a lesson when you see someone with hair like Chunt..and listen to him talk like a robot. This is a calculated move to "appear" as normal as possible. It's the earmark of a criminal in the "elite" hierarchy and a tactic politicians use...he's currently being sued by the state of New Mexico for ripping off tax payers. He's ripping off people when he doesn't even need the money...that's sickness.

His family is social poison...the worst kind of liars. CHunt is evil...masked as humanitarian. His PR will sell you otherwise...judge people by their actions, not words.

I refuse to support his company..the Chiefs..unfortunately, his family has greased the political tax gears to the point that every citizens has to pay for the maintenance of his stadium. Sham job of the highest order...rotten apples dont fall far from the tree.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

What bothers me...

That the Hunt family has a long running history of criminal activity...

They had to pay out $130 million in 1988 for conspiracy to manipulate the silver market...

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-08-..._hunt-brothers

For laymen...this is what happens to rich people when they get caught juking the system. Johnny Normal serves 20 years...

Be worth a billion...wear a suit and people will accept you're a fraud.

Let this be a lesson when you see someone with hair like Chunt..and listen to him talk like a robot. This is a calculated move to "appear" as normal as possible. It's the earmark of a criminal in the "elite" hierarchy and a tactic politicians use...he's currently being sued by the state of New Mexico for ripping off tax payers. He's ripping off people when he doesn't even need the money...that's sickness.

His family is social poison...the worst kind of liars. CHunt is evil...masked as humanitarian. His PR will sell you otherwise...judge people by their actions, not words.

I refuse to support his company..the Chiefs..unfortunately, his family has greased the political tax gears to the point that every citizens has to pay for the maintenance of his stadium. Sham job of the highest order...rotten apples dont fall far from the tree.

If this were all true... just avoid it all, or go out and be vocal about the discontent with the business.

[thegame214]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

If this were all true... just avoid it all, or go out and be vocal about the discontent with the business.

Marcus Peters said it best lol

hush money:money paid to someone to prevent them from disclosing embarrassing or discreditable information.

— Marcus Peters (@marcuspeters) November 30, 2017

[SuperBowl4]

The pricing for the CLUB LEVEL. And the flex pricing they do when they adjust the price of a unsold seat to what the average resale market is asking. NOT COOL.

[Best22]

Also, watching NotChiefs vs NotChiefs in the Superbowl gets tiring

Doug Marrone and Bortles do what KC has done once in 48 years:

Play in an AFCCG

It's only Jacksonvilles third appearance. What a great franchise the Jags are

[Ming the Merciless]

Not taking risks in the draft...

The Fisher pick for example....just awful. Finally I feel like next season will be the start of something good. Even if Mahomes is a bust...at least we swung the bat.

Nothing bothers me more than not trying

Clark is damn near a financial genius and he let the cap get out of control. He let the franchise down by being so hands off. That's the one area you can't hire someone smarter/better than Clark.

[FloridaMan88]

The fact that it takes a 2-14/rock bottom type season for Clark Hunt to hold people accountable and make necessary changes.

I had hopes that the decision to fire John Dorsey would be a sign that the Chiefs were breaking from this historical tendency, but the fact that Andy Reid has not fired (or has been forced to fire by Clark) a single assistant coach after the latest playoff collapse, shows the lack of accountability continues at One Arrowhead Drive.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The fact that it takes a 2-14/rock bottom type season for Clark Hunt to hold people accountable and make necessary changes.

I had hopes that the decision to fire John Dorsey would be a sign that the Chiefs were breaking from this historical tendency, but the fact that Andy Reid has not fired (or has been forced to fire by Clark) a single assistant coach after the latest playoff collapse, shows the lack of accountability continues at One Arrowhead Drive.

Reid calls plays that get people open

We just never had a quarterback that could consistently get it to them

[hitchief]

Originally Posted by Best22

Reid calls plays that get people open

We just never had a quarterback that could consistently get it to them

Really? that's what you come up with?

Not even true but fits your narrative so its got that going for you.

Always boils down to the management no matter in the NFL or the business world. Ownership has been pretty nonexistent and has let the GM and HC run the show so it falls on those 2 positions to get the right players and then put those players in the best position to succeed. Andy just does not have the ability to coach his way out of box. Never holds anyone or even unit accountable for anything, ever!

Just look at the Pats, yes they have Brady but that game yesterday was a great example of in game adjustments and how that team fights on both sides of the ball. They all know their jobs and are accountable and if they don't preform they are gone. D made huge plays in the second half to keep them in the game and then win it at the very end. Brady makes tons of throws mostly very good but for gods sake did you see the wr's laying out for some of those throws? Every dam player made a play when it counted and I've never seen this team even come close to an effort like that one by them yesterday.

[Chief_For_Life58]

ownership. ownership doesnt care if we win or lose. They profit

[gblowfish]

I think that it fancies itself a a 'Storied" franchise. Like the kingdom they propose to be. They're like Sicily. Storied, sure. But also the most conquered country in history.