Sammy Watkins

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Is a baller.

That's it. That's the thread.

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[wachashi]

Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

You've got that backwards. If traded or cut, caps SAVINGS is $14M. Dead money is $7M.

https://overthecap.com/player/sammy-watkins/2943/

edit: Hill is getting $17M this year and Sammy is scheduled to get $21M. Something ain't right! And no one will trade for the right to restructure him.

I am not a cap expert but I thought, if Sammy gets traded, KC is on the hook for the $7 million cap it, and the team that trades for him absorbs the remaining $14 million cap hit. I may be wrong.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I can definitely see an argument for selling out for a potential dynasty team now - while we still have Hill and Kelce in their primes. Sign Jones, maybe give Watkins a 2-3 year deal where he gets more guaranteed money but less than $21M a year obviously. Backload Mahomes' contract so the first few years are easy on the cap.

Then about the time Kelce and Hill are slowing down - might have a few years of cleaning house/rebuilding.

Yep. Deal is Mahomes is young enough to be around for several rebuilds.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I’d be fine extending him at 11-12m per year, but that’s not going to happen.

Watkins is gone. We just have to hope we get something in return because cutting him shouldn’t be an option.

so you'd be fine with extending him and paying him an average of 2 million less per year than he's scheduled to get next year but stretching it out longer?


that doesnt make much sense to me.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I can definitely see an argument for selling out for a potential dynasty team now - while we still have Hill and Kelce in their primes. Sign Jones, maybe give Watkins a 2-3 year deal where he gets more guaranteed money but less than $21M a year obviously. Backload Mahomes' contract so the first few years are easy on the cap.

Then about the time Kelce and Hill are slowing down - might have a few years of cleaning house/rebuilding.

watkins doesnt make 21 million next year.

he makes 14, we've already paid him 7 in his signing bonus...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by wachashi

I am not a cap expert but I thought, if Sammy gets traded, KC is on the hook for the $7 million cap it, and the team that trades for him absorbs the remaining $14 million cap hit. I may be wrong.

thats right.


which i why i dont get that people are crying saying he's making 21 million next year.


he's making 14. the other 7 has already been paid and i'm not sure there is a way to get out from under that.

[MightyMouse]

Sammy has been dealing with some mental stuff for awhile. Seems like playing for Reid helped him a lot. I don’t think he will be a Chief next year unless he feels being with Reid is worth a huge pay cut. Hopefully he finds happiness in whatever he does

[Easy 6]

I will only say this...

Sammy is a genuinely likeable guy

Sammy was instrumental throughout the playoffs and big game

But if he, along with others, has to be a cap casualty in order to keep Sacksquatch Jones... then I’m all for it, secure in the belief that Andy and Brett can find a suitable replacement

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

thats right.


which i why i dont get that people are crying saying he's making 21 million next year.


he's making 14. the other 7 has already been paid and i'm not sure there is a way to get out from under that.

The question is what is better:

1. Watkins with a 21 mil cap hit; or

2. Player X cost plus 7 mil dead money for Watkins.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

so you'd be fine with extending him and paying him an average of 2 million less per year than he's scheduled to get next year but stretching it out longer?


that doesnt make much sense to me.

That would make his first year (this year) cap hit drop by about 10m and keep future hits manageable.

Do that and get Jones inked to 5/90

Cut LDT

Re-sign Wis and Pennel...extend Fish and Kelce to clear space.

Draft well.

Repeat championship and aim for next offseason to get Mahomes done.

The cap is going to explode in the new CBA with tons of new money rolling in.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That would make his first year (this year) cap hit drop by about 10m and keep future hits manageable.

Do that and get Jones inked to 5/90

Cut LDT

Re-sign Wis and Pennel...extend Fish and Kelce to clear space.

Draft well.

Repeat championship and aim for next offseason to get Mahomes done.

The cap is going to explode in the new CBA with tons of new money rolling in.

you’re pushing money.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Reid's concepts aren't that hard to understand

Uh, it's generally accepted common knowledge that Andy Reid's offensive schemes are among the most complicated in the league . . .

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Uh, it's generally accepted common knowledge that Andy Reid's offensive schemes are among the most complicated in the league . . .

This, no clue wtf he's talking about.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

This, no clue wtf he's talking about.

Me neither. Probably from the same talking heads that said that Andy can't read a clock. Basically people that don't understand football on any level past HS. Or think that they know Andy Reid's schemes because they play Madden . . .

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

you’re pushing money.

Of course I am.

I’m pushing it into years when the cap will explode and there will be a lot more money.

By then deals like Chris Jones for 18-20 will be a fantasy.

Right now the cap is 200m.

In 4-5 years it’s going to be 280-300m.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

This, no clue wtf he's talking about.

Aspen is actually one of the few posters on this board who actually knows X’s and O’s.